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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

That is very helpful. I know that a number of them are watching today, so I hope that they will take you up on that offer.

It has been suggested to me that the transformation project is not green book compliant. Is that the case?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

I fully agree with that. However—to go back to my initial questions to Andy Witty—the Minister for Higher and Further Education, when he was in front of us, said that

“The position that Colleges Scotland adopted at the outset was to make a budget ask that many people would have considered unrealistic by any judgment.”—[Official Report, Education, Children and Young People Committee, 8 January 2025; c 8.]

That ask was largely about capital—Colleges Scotland made a big request for capital. I think that what you have said needs to be heard by Government; otherwise, the condition of the buildings will get poorer and poorer.

Professor Powell, I think that you wanted to come in.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Good morning, and welcome to the 21st meeting in 2025 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee.

The first item on our agenda is a decision on taking business in private. Does the committee agree to take in private item 4, which is consideration of a legislative consent memorandum?

Members indicated agreement.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Joe FitzPatrick is not with us today, and so I welcome Clare Haughey, who is attending as the substitute member.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Ms Nairn, as a Highlands and Islands MSP, I am keen to look at the issues around UHI, which obviously go wider than just the Highlands and Islands—we have recently seen a situation in Perth. There is no doubt that UHI and the colleges have been going through challenging and turbulent times. As the principal and vice-chancellor of UHI, what responsibility do you have for some of the issues that have arisen?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Page 40 of your “Report and Financial Statements” for 2024 says that

“the University Court is responsible for assessing the group’s and the parent institution’s ability to continue as a going concern”.

What responsibility do you have for the recent situation in Perth, where the principal has lost her job? Do you bear any responsibility for the situation there, or was that wholly a local issue that you could not have been aware of?

09:45  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Where is the monitoring, scrutiny and oversight before a principal has to resign? You knew that she was going to resign—there was a lot of focus on that—so you did not only know when the letter was handed in to her board.

What about the steps that led up to her taking the big decision to resign? She had worked with UHI for many years, so where was the scrutiny by the RBS and the court before it got to that stage?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

Are you saying that it was all the responsibility of the individual college, principal and board and nothing to do with you as principal and vice-chancellor, or with the RSB?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

So the RSB can intervene.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Douglas Ross

When did you first see that there were problems at Perth?