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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Sheriff Mackie, may I take advantage of your being here to tease out a couple more things in relation to your evidence? We have already discussed some of the language that is used and said that it is difficult to follow. Is it the case that the principle around the language is correct but that it just needs redrafting, or are the problems more significant? Is it simply a case of changing some of the words and how things are written, or is there a more fundamental problem, particularly in relation to section 90 of the bill?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Ms Galli, because you are joining remotely, I would like you to indicate if you want to come in. The Law Society has an interest in this point and your sub-committee has been looking at the bill. Do you have anything to add?

I understand that you also want to make a brief opening remark about where you are giving evidence from today.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Given what you said, Ms Thompson, there should certainly be an awareness of what happened with the Housing (Scotland) Bill.

You may not be able to answer my second question, but you may have some ideas. Is there a way of resolving that issue? Will we have to wait until we come to stage 2 amendments, or could the Government say something when ministers come to the committee to discuss the bill ahead of the stage 1 vote?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

We will go to Ms Galli first, if that is okay.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

We will now move to questions from Bill Kidd.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Ms Burns, your submission talks about the comment in the financial memorandum that “All costs are steady-state”. You are perhaps more concerned than previous witnesses that the memorandum is a bit light. You are worried about that statement and say:

“This is a concern and warrants further consideration.”

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

I have a couple of final questions. Section 3 of the bill extends the corporate parenting duties, and CELCIS has been arguing that extending the duties to those who have experienced more limited state involvement in their lives—for example, being in a very brief period of care as a baby—might raise human rights issues and contradict the principle of minimum state intervention.

Are you able to tell us a bit more about your concerns around that, Ms Burns?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Do you wish to comment, Ms Burns?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Ms Galli, would you like to speak before we finish?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Douglas Ross

You committed absolutely to bringing forward amendments during the summer—