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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 February 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

Based on what I have just read out, do you think that that could be a breach of the ministerial code? I am not asking you to judge whether you breached the code but, on the basis of that alone, could that be something that needs to be investigated?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

Unless I am reading it wrong, it says:

“A Government official should be present for all discussions relating to Government business.”

You have confirmed that it was Government business, because you were contacting Professor Jay as the cabinet secretary—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

—on Government business. You have just confirmed that you were calling as the Cabinet Secretary for—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

Professor Jay, on Mr Greer’s opening question about the clarification in the group minutes, did that suggestion come from you? Did you think that that would be the appropriate body for that clarification? Did someone in the Scottish Government suggest, “You have raised your concerns; this is the vehicle that we suggest for changing that”?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

I am just wondering how you felt. The letter to all MSPs, including you, finished by saying:

“Please do the right thing and vote to remove Angela Constance from her position. This will give the many victims of this barbaric form of abuse some belief and trust in the process going forward.”

Are you worried that they will not have belief and trust in the process going forward if you remain in post?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

In terms of that option, Professor Jay confirmed that she was given two options: a letter from you in response to her letter, which would not necessarily be public but could be released under freedom of information some time later, or corrections to the relevant minutes. Why did no Government civil servant or special adviser suggest or offer a correction to the Official Report? At any point, was it discussed by anyone in Government that you might need to correct the Official Report?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Cross-portfolio Session

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

It was certainly helpful for the committee. Professor Jay said that what has now been set up and proposed is workable, but she is keen to take a few months to see whether it is the optimal way forward. Is it the optimal way forward to get answers for victims?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

My question is more about whether, in hindsight, you think that this situation could have been avoided.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

Earlier this morning, Professor Alexis Jay told this committee that she would welcome the Official Report being corrected in a similar way to the minute of the meeting. Will you now do that, given that request from Professor Jay?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Interests

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

Good morning, and welcome to the 37th meeting in 2025 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. I welcome Paul O’Kane, who is joining us as a committee member for the first time this morning and is replacing Pam Duncan-Glancy. On behalf of the committee, I thank Pam Duncan-Glancy for her contribution to the committee’s work. As this is Mr O’Kane’s first meeting as a member, I invite him to declare any relevant interests.