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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Before you do so, are you against or in favour of apprenticeship funding that goes to the Funding Council being ring fenced in the new apprenticeships budget? Would you be in favour of or averse to that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

But you must accept that it is a wholly different matter with regard to this legislation when you look at the quantum. The quantum that is being spent by the Government through the Funding Council on universities and colleges already dwarfs that for apprenticeships, which is why our witnesses have expressed concern about the risk of that funding being merged with other pots.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

What will be the difference?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Okay. Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

From whom? In the evidence that we have heard, there has been a lack of enthusiasm. There are a lot of challenges in the sector, but people are not banging on our door to say that they would like this bill to be taken through in the final year of the parliamentary session. I have a letter in front of me from the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities that shows it is not in favour, and we got a letter yesterday from Western Isles Council, a COSLA member, which is not in favour of the change. SDS clearly has concerns. The most support comes from the Funding Council, which will gain a lot of functions and extra funding from you under this bill.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Have you asked?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

To be clear, what can you not access? You have known for some time that the committee would scrutinise the bill, and you have mentioned a consultation from a couple of years ago. If we were to recommend approval of the bill at stage 1, what detail that would allow us to properly consider the costs would you get in the next few months, between now and September, that you could not have got in the past few months?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

I am sorry, but I will press you. What has been withheld from you? Why could you not get the figure for us for our stage 1 deliberation? You know that the cost has come up in evidence.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

You cannot tell us, as the minister in charge of this, what should be done better and what should change to deliver that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Douglas Ross

You will not know the exact staff numbers at the end of stage 1,but the minister has just committed to bringing the cost details back before stage 2.