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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 22 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Douglas Ross

The next item of business is evidence from two panels on the Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill. I welcome our first panel. Stephen Bermingham is senior policy and standards manager for Children’s Hearings Scotland; Matt Forde is partnerships and development director for NSPCC Scotland; Margaret Smith, who is joining us remotely, is the services manager for Partners in Advocacy; Alastair Hogg is head of practice and policy for the Scottish Children’s Reporter Administration; and Laura Pasternak is policy and public affairs manager for Who Cares? Scotland. Welcome to you all. As you can see, we have a big panel, with five of you on it, so there is a lot to get through with members’ questions and your answers.

Looking at all your briefings, I see that you are largely supportive of some areas in the bill but there are some areas in which you would like to see change. Could you briefly describe what you like about what is in the bill and what you would like to see improved during our scrutiny at stage 1, and at stages 2 and 3 if the bill progresses? Mr. Hogg, I will start with you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Douglas Ross

We will get into a number of those elements through our questions.

I come to Mr Forde. If there are elements of what Mr Hogg said that you agree with, you do not need to repeat them. Which areas of the bill do you think are good, and which do you think that the committee and the Parliament should focus on with a view to improving?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Douglas Ross

That concludes our evidence session with our first witnesses today. I thank you all for your time, your answers and your contributions. It is much appreciated.

Before we moved to our next panel of witnesses, I will suspend the meeting for 10 minutes.

11:12 Meeting suspended.  

11:23 On resuming—  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Mr Dunlop, I have deliberately left you until last. You are not a big fan of the bill. The other witnesses have a number of positive points to make, with a few areas where they would like to see improvement. I read over your four-page submission and saw there was very little that you liked about the bill. Is that a fair assumption?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Tell us more.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you. There is a lot to get into in relation to the bill with the witnesses today. Pam Duncan-Glancy will ask the next questions.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you. Mr McLennan, back to you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Douglas Ross

If no one has any comments on that point, we will move to Bill Kidd.

12:45  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you. I will bring in John Mason.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Douglas Ross

Do you want to come in, Ms Pasternak?