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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 29 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Douglas Ross

Before we come to Bill Kidd, I want to ask about the EVOLVEvisits system. Why would authorities such as Glasgow and Edinburgh, which clearly have outdoor education, not join that system? Is there a cost implication?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Douglas Ross

Is its use universal across every local authority in Wales?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Douglas Ross

But the position would then be different right across the country.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Deputy Convener

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Douglas Ross

Congratulations, Jackie, and welcome to your new role as deputy convener.

I take this opportunity to thank Evelyn Tweed for everything that she has done as deputy convener of the committee. It is great that you are continuing with us on the committee, Evelyn.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Douglas Ross

Thank you. Is there anything that Tara Lillis wants to add?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Douglas Ross

I am sorry, but I think that Andrew Bradshaw wanted to come in on an earlier question.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Douglas Ross

Yes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 November 2024

Douglas Ross

We are running a bit short of time, so, if Miles Briggs has finished his questions, we will move on to questions from Ross Greer.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 November 2024

Douglas Ross

Good morning and welcome to the 28th meeting in 2024 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee.

We have apologies from Stephanie Callaghan, so we welcome back Jackie Dunbar.

The first item on our agenda is an evidence session on the Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill at stage 1. This is a member’s bill that was introduced by Liz Smith MSP, who is in the public gallery.

I begin by welcoming our witnesses. Professor Chris Loynes is emeritus professor in human nature relations in the institute of science and environment, centre for national parks and protected areas and outdoor studies at the University of Cumbria. Professor Greg Mannion is a senior lecturer in education at the University of Stirling and joins us remotely. Dr Roger Scrutton is an honorary research fellow in outdoor education at the University of Edinburgh. I welcome you all to the committee.

There is a lot that we want to question you on. Professor Mannion, if you could indicate that you want to come in by raising your hand, I will try to make sure that that catches my eye on the screen.

I begin with a general opening question. I should say that, as we have a lot to get through, if you hear evidence that is the same as your own, you can simply say that you agree and we can move on.

I read Professor Loynes’s written submission to the committee—in particular about his research into the significant improvements in maths and literacy scores and exam results among pupils who have been on outdoor residential courses.

Could each of you outline why you think that outdoor education is an important element and why the bill should be supported? I think that all the witnesses agree that there is a need for the bill, albeit that some have caveats and conditions. However, in relation to the general principle, what are the witnesses’ views on the bill and the need for outdoor residential education?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 November 2024

Douglas Ross

Dr Scrutton wants to come back in.