The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Douglas Ross
Well, it is accurate in terms of the data that we have in front of us, so I give it a 10 on accuracy, based on what we have. If your question is whether I think that it will cost £198 million every year, the answer is no—I cannot give that commitment, because of the significant variation in the figures and the range that we have had to include. Ultimately, it could be seen as a failure for me if the bill ends up costing more money but, if that is because more people have the confidence to come forward and seek the treatment that they want and need, I will accept that criticism, because more people will be helped as a result.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Douglas Ross
I would say that £160 million of the current budget is not enough, which is why I am asking that we spend more money on this issue. I will go back to the point that I could have picked a figure that is wildly different from the £198 million that we get to for the increase required for the bill, and still not have been able to give you an accurate figure on your scale of zero to 10.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Douglas Ross
I was going to say that we always look for international comparisons, but the reason might be that other countries do not have Scotland’s shocking drug and alcohol death rates. The fact that we are the worst in the United Kingdom and across Europe means that we have to do something different here, and I think that it is incumbent on the Parliament to look outside the box. As I said to Mr Mason, if we continue to do the same thing time and time again, we should not be surprised that the results—that is, the number of people dying—remain the same. We have to look at something different, which is why I think that having this unique approach in Scotland is right.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Douglas Ross
I said it in jest.
Things have definitely come out since the bill was introduced and the financial memorandum was written. I mentioned Audit Scotland’s 2022 report; its 2024 report came out after the financial memorandum was submitted. I am therefore happy, whether instructed or otherwise by the committee, to look at some of the areas that have materialised since the financial memorandum was submitted and to look at some of the updated issues and challenges that are faced by both the sector and other bodies that have made compelling submissions to the committee.
I repeat, however, that a lot of Audit Scotland’s concerns are over wider funding issues that come down to the challenges for local government and national Government and, as you have said, the changing circumstances that are due to UK decisions.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Douglas Ross
That comes on top of the baseline of £160 million, which would take the total budget up to £198 million.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Douglas Ross
There will be different forms of treatment for different people. For some, rehab is the right approach. We rely heavily on that in the bill, because many of the organisations speak about the benefits of rehab. Faces and Voices of Recovery UK said that
“quality residential treatment can help improve mental and physical health, reduce offending, improve employability and enhance social functioning.”
For some people, that approach will absolutely be the right one to take, while a variety of treatment options will be right for others.
The number of people who are treated and supported would, indeed, increase with the proposed legislation, but I would not want to pick a figure out of thin air. I would not try to provide alternative figures that were not backed up by the data. That is the difficulty. I get what you are saying about taking the 57,300 figure and then looking at the wider number of people who will require treatment. As I said in my opening remarks, the cost is at the lower end of expectations, but it is very difficult.
It is telling that, in its response to the bill, the Scottish Government did not provide a figure for the alternative level of funding that it thinks would be required. I know that it has done so with other bills, but it could not come up with a figure to suggest what my bill would cost.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Douglas Ross
It is an overall figure. Perhaps we can look at the matter through parliamentary questions. I would be keen to lodge some to get more information, if that is possible. The report was not looking at Scotland in particular—it was done for the UK Government—but people can see that the financial benefits are well above the £4 to £1 ratio, and the personal benefit of lives being saved is perhaps the most crucial benefit.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Douglas Ross
That is a very good question. I stress, and will continue to stress throughout the process of the bill, that it does not seek to supersede or replace any other forms of support; rather, it is to complement that support.
In the financial memorandum, we look at the number of people who are suggested for residential rehab and certain other treatments who do not complete that treatment. The bill is about the cohort of people for whom experts have determined that those treatments are the right approach, but for reasons of time or cost, or for multiple reasons that we do not yet know about, they do not complete the full treatment that has been suggested. We want to give people the legal footing of a guarantee, backed by law and passed in the Parliament, that, if they are told that a treatment will help them with their drug or alcohol addiction problems, they will get that treatment. It would not prevent people from getting other forms of help, support and treatment but would complement, as you said, what is already in existence.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Douglas Ross
No. The research that we did was through health boards and ADPs. Some of the figures and data will be fed in through the ADPs and integration joint boards, which obviously have council representatives on them. I am happy to go away to try to get some figures, because they would be helpful for you and for other members.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 11 March 2025
Douglas Ross
But I do not really want to get into that political point.