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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 31 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Douglas Ross

Why did you not launch the review straight away? Why did it take you until 11 September? I am sure that the cabinet secretary looked at the figures that were coming in. Surely you looked at them and thought, “Why has there been a 13.1 per cent drop in higher history this year?” You knew that there were complaints, but you seem to have launched the review because there was a bit of backlash, both politically here in the Parliament and on social media. Why not launch the review on the day you saw the figures that were coming in?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise (Staff Recruitment and Retention)

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Douglas Ross

Welcome back, members, ladies and gentlemen. I welcome our second panel of witnesses. Laura Caven is chief officer in the children and young people team and co-chair of the additional support for learning project board at the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, Alison Bavidge is national director of the Scottish Association of Social Work, Ben Farrugia is the director of Social Work Scotland and Stephen Smellie is the chair of the social work issues group at Unison Scotland.

I know that some, if not all, of you were listening to the previous session, so you will have heard what our first witnesses said. My questions will be largely the same; you will have heard the responses to them. Those witnesses said that you might be better suited to answering some of my latter questions, but on the workforce issue, what are the challenges that are facing the workforce in delivering the Promise and the commitment that has been made?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise (Staff Recruitment and Retention)

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Douglas Ross

Thank you for your evidence. We have overrun a little bit, which just shows the interest from committee members, who are very grateful for your time and answers.

I suspend the meeting for five to 10 minutes.

12:27 Meeting suspended.  

12:34 On resuming—  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise (Staff Recruitment and Retention)

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Douglas Ross

Will you clarify whether you think that it is correct that there are more seniors—a 48 per cent rise since 2019—but that you would prefer, I presume, that the number of main social workers had risen to the same extent?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise (Staff Recruitment and Retention)

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Douglas Ross

It was 30 minutes with a family and four hours for the report.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Douglas Ross

I am saying very clearly, cabinet secretary—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise (Staff Recruitment and Retention)

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Douglas Ross

It looks as though nobody has anything to add. Our final questions will come from Miles Briggs.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise (Staff Recruitment and Retention)

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Douglas Ross

The latest figures show that, since 2019, there has been a 48 per cent rise in the number of senior children’s social workers, which compares with a 2 per cent fall in the number of main children’s social workers. Is that the wrong way round? Do we have too many people in senior roles, and not enough at the main level? What is the reason for that disparity in the figures?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise (Staff Recruitment and Retention)

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Douglas Ross

Good morning and welcome to the 32nd meeting in 2024 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee.

Our first agenda item is an evidence session on the Promise and staff recruitment and retention. I welcome our first panel of witnesses: Claire Burns, director, CELCIS; Fraser McKinlay, chief executive, The Promise Scotland; Fiona Duncan, independent strategic adviser; and Professor Trish McCulloch, professor of social work and deputy dean, school of humanities, social sciences and law, University of Dundee.

Given that we have a panel of four and a big committee, please feel free not to answer every question if you will simply repeat what you have heard. We have to get through a lot of crucial evidence today. We are very grateful to you all for your time.

I will start by asking about the importance of the workforce to achieving the Promise. What assessment of the workforce do panel members make individually in their respective areas at the moment? What challenges arise from workforce problems in relation to achieving the Promise? Does anyone want to start?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise (Staff Recruitment and Retention)

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Douglas Ross

Can you just put your mic down a little bit?