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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 20 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

I call Willie Rennie.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

That concludes our deliberations on the bill for today. I thank the witnesses for their time, their answers to our questions and their evidence. It is very much appreciated.

That concludes the public part of our proceedings, and we will now move into private to consider our final agenda item.

12:19 Meeting continued in private until 12:35.  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Has Aberdeenshire Council had experience of wanting some of that money but being unable to get it because of the complexities and the bureaucracy surrounding the fund?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

That would be for the Government to look at, react to and hopefully come back to local authorities on.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

You did not hear her?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

One final area that we have not touched on so far is children’s hearings. A lot of people who responded to our call for views were positive and welcomed the enhanced role of the reporter, but COSLA was quite critical, noting that the reporter can already have informal meetings and that professionals should already be working with the child and family to support their understanding of the process. You believe that the introduction of a meeting with the principal reporter raises questions about roles in the process.

Could you explain the background to your concerns? The bill addresses the issue, but are there non-legislative ways in which it could be addressed?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you for that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you very much. I thank you all for your time and for the evidence that you have provided on the bill. It is much appreciated.

I suspend the meeting for about 15 minutes to allow for a change of witnesses.

10:37 Meeting suspended.  

10:49 On resuming—  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Welcome back. I welcome our second panel of witnesses. Charlotte Wilson is temporary chief inspector for children and young people at the Care Inspectorate; Maree Allison is chief executive of the Scottish Social Services Council; and John Trainer is chief social work officer for Renfrewshire Council and convener of Social Work Scotland.

Do our witnesses have any initial thoughts on today’s report by Audit Scotland and the Auditor General on progress on the Promise to date? How should that report frame our thoughts about the bill that is in front of Parliament?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Douglas Ross

Mr Trainer, you used quite stark language when you said that, for you, personally and professionally, the bill is “frustrating” and “disappointing”. Did the Government engage with yourself and others in Social Work Scotland? Our previous witnesses expressed disappointment that COSLA and local authorities were not involved. Do you think that the Government did enough engagement before presenting the bill?