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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

But you knew then that that was not enough.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

I just wanted to check. I am getting nods of agreement—that is good.

Finally, cabinet secretary, I read you a number of quotes from the children’s commissioner, and you said that you would not put words in her mouth. I will read one of those quotes again and invite you to respond:

“One of the greatest barriers to the take up of school meals are feelings of shame and stigma, and only providing meals to P6-P7 in receipt of the Scottish Child Payment just exacerbates that stigma.”

Do you accept that the SSI that you are asking us to approve will, according to the children’s commissioner, exacerbate the shame and stigma for young people who take up free school meals?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

That is what I am asking.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

So, you disagree with the children’s commissioner on that point. We will hear from her next, and I would like to put the point to her.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

We are not.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

That concludes the consideration of the instrument.

Before I release you, cabinet secretary, there are a couple of quick questions about the University of Dundee. I go to Willie Rennie.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

We have a number of questions on the issue, and I will start. Can you tell me why 53(7) of the Education (Scotland) Act 1980 does not need to be amended?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

Cabinet secretary, that is because you are repeating a point that you have already—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

Given our interest, would you review some of the information that is in the public domain and the discussions, and update the committee?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 April 2025

Douglas Ross

You just said that the regulations compel you to deliver universal free school meals, so when will you deliver that? I am just using your words. That has now convinced me, so well done. If the regulations compel you to deliver universal free school meals, as you said, when will you do that?