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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
When it did come up, why did you wait a month to send an email to the Funding Council?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
Once again, I thank you for the time that you have given us and for coming here today. I have to commend you for agreeing to come before the committee; it is right that you have the opportunity to put your side of the argument. I welcome the fact that Professor Gillespie has agreed to do the same tomorrow and that others before you have come to give evidence, too.
I note, for those watching who are following our agenda, that the committee agreed to discuss our further agenda items via correspondence. Therefore, instead of suspending the meeting, I will simply close it.
Meeting closed at 13:41.Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
On the matter of your email to the Funding Council, given the gravity of what you were informing the Funding Council of, do you think that the language that you have used was appropriate? You said, “I’m dropping you a line.” It is like me saying that I dropped my wife a line at the end of a meeting to ask her how her morning had gone.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
And that those lasted for several months—up to half a year.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
I want to come back to and test the covenant point a bit further later. Mr Fotheringham and Dr McGeorge, in response to Mr Rennie’s initial questions, you spoke about underrecruitment being the big issue. That challenges the Gillies report’s findings, because Professor Gillies is very clear that the issue was the excessive spending over a significant period.
Are you challenging the report or do you accept that the issue was not underrecruitment, which many universities struggled with, but your decisions to continue spending at significant rates and increase staffing levels even though student numbers were going down? Gillies is right, and what you are saying this morning is not correct, Mr Fotheringham.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
Ms Millar, in response to Mr Greer, you spoke about the conduct and environment that you wanted for your court, in which your court members could challenge things, but you said that perhaps the information that you were provided with to provide that challenge was not as good as it could be. The Courier has had outstanding coverage of this issue and has been a trusted voice that people have gone to in order to shine a light on what was happening internally. It quotes one of the members of your court as saying that you would shut down questions about finances because that was an operational matter and that you would not allow such questions to be asked.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
Where better to be questioned than in front of you, the chair of the court. You have told this committee a number of times about your curiosity and about how you wanted to drill down into things. However, you have accepted on the record that you shut down questions about finances.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
Would you agree with Dr McGeorge about the former principal?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
On the creation of a hostile atmosphere. You inserted the term “hostile” into the evidence today. So, did that come from Professor Gillespie, in your view?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
The committee members have been asking the questions, but we have been joined by two regional MSPs who take a significant interest in the issue. They have been waiting patiently, so I will now bring them in. Michael Marra will go first.