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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
We move to questions from Joe FitzPatrick.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
We have had a bit of a discussion around finance. Continuing with that theme, I note that page 38 of the Gillies report states that a number of individuals, including Mr Fotheringham and Dr McGeorge,
“appeared to operate in isolation of facts”.
Did you?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
Is Gillies wrong, then, in that assumption?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
But Gillies is very clear that those opportunities were not difficult to spot. It sounds as though you were asleep at the wheel. Did you enjoy the title of chair of the court while not being particularly keen to do the work?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
You say that you engaged in a “curious way”. Where was your curiosity when all this was going on and you did not intervene?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
The report says:
“P9, P10 and P11 management accounts (April, May and June 2024) were produced in draft but never finalised into papers that reached UEG.”
Surely members were asking you where that information was and why they were not getting it. The report also says, on page 33:
“It is not clear why this happened or who decided that these papers would not be provided.”
You said that you were curious and wanted to drill down. Did you find out?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
Mr Fotheringham, your former colleague is saying that it is your fault. How do you respond?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
I will bring in Joe FitzPatrick—
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
I do not think that we have cleared any of that up, but I will bring in some other colleagues at the moment, starting with Pam Duncan-Glancy.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
That was clearly not the case, because you have been bailed out to the tune of tens of millions of pounds of public money. I do not get an impression from you that you think that you did particularly badly. There is an impression that you could have done better, but you are quite complacent.