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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
You were interviewed for about an hour and provided information.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
And you, Ms Millar?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
I want to stop you for a second, Mr Marra.
Mr Fotheringham said that he told you before he left. Therefore, if, as you say, the paper was prepared by the deputy director, you would have been aware at that time.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
It was clear to everyone. The currency problems in Nigeria were all over the news, and the Scottish Funding Council had warned every university that the peaks in student recruitment were not sustainable. People who are not even in your senior roles—people on the street—were aware of that. Why were you not aware of it?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
You are unemployed. I am sorry about that.
Amanda Millar, all this was going on while you were ultimately in charge of the governance. These gentlemen were employed to do that work, and they failed. Ultimately, you represented the final catch-all opportunity to make sure that good governance was progressed through the university and that such issues were highlighted. Why did you and your court fail so miserably to do that?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
So, until that point, when they regularly attended, was it not helpful for them to be there and you decided to exclude them?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
Was it your decision to implement the change or were you advised by the former principal or others who are on the panel to do it?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
You have all been extremely positive and passionate about the University of Dundee, which begs the question why you allowed it to get into such a situation.
Dr McGeorge, you said that, during the period that the Gillies report covers, you did your very best. If that is your very best, it is pathetic. You are identified as one of the worst offenders in the report. Your conduct—what you oversaw and allowed to happen—is unacceptable. How can that possibly be your very best?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
But the report also makes it clear that it would not have been difficult to challenge that. Someone with your experience, who had spent many years at the University of Dundee, should surely have questioned what you were getting from Mr Fotheringham and what the former principal and others were asking you to pass on. You did not do that.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Douglas Ross
Yes, but members of the university executive group were also on the court. Did they not come to you, as chair, to say, “We’re not getting this information”?