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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 22 March 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Douglas Ross

The next agenda item is day 3 of stage 2 proceedings on the Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill.

I welcome the Minister for Children, Young People and The Promise, along with her supporting officials. I remind members that the officials who are seated at the table are here to support the minister but cannot speak in the debates on amendments. Members should therefore direct comments or questions to the minister.

Once again, we welcome a number of non-committee members who are attending to speak to their amendments and participate in the debates.

After section 21

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Douglas Ross

I call the minister to wind up.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Douglas Ross

Amendment 83, in the name of Nicola Sturgeon, is grouped with amendments 84, 85, 122 and 216.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Douglas Ross

Amendment 220, in the name of Willie Rennie, has already been debated with amendment 218. I call Willie Rennie to move or not move.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Douglas Ross

Amendment 209, in the name of Willie Rennie, is in a group on its own.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Douglas Ross

I call Martin Whitfield to wind up and say whether he wishes to press or withdraw amendment 218.

10:15

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Douglas Ross

The result of the division is: For 3, Against 7, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 225 disagreed to.

Section 26 agreed to.

Long title agreed to.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

VAT and Independent Schools

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Douglas Ross

Thank you for that opening statement. The committee will want to cover a number of questions, but I will start with how we got here. This policy was a manifesto commitment of the Labour Party in Opposition, and then the party came into Government. We have really struggled to get anyone from the UK Labour Government to attend the committee. We invited the Secretary of State for Education, but she refused, suggesting that it was a matter for the Treasury. We then invited the Secretary of State for Scotland, but he refused, suggesting that it was a matter for another department. Eventually, as you alluded to, we got a letter from the Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury. However, we have found it very difficult and, frankly, frustrating that no UK Labour politician has been willing to come here to defend their policy.

What discussions did you have with the Labour Party while it was coming up with the policy, in relation to the manifesto or post election, to see whether anything could be done to protect Scottish independent schools?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

VAT and Independent Schools

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Douglas Ross

You referenced the letter that we have had from the Exchequer Secretary. Do you think that the UK Government is refusing to accept the differences that there are with Scottish education and therefore the impact of the policy in Scotland? Is it misunderstanding the implications? In its correspondence with this committee and others, it seems to have quite a confused position regarding the impact in Scotland in particular. Is the UK Government just not getting it, or is it choosing to assume that what it says will apply in Scotland, when clearly it does not?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

VAT and Independent Schools

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Douglas Ross

Sadly, we do not have a baker in Duffus, but we have a very good post office. There is a very good butcher in Hopeman whom my parents go to, so I will not go into that too much for fear of having to declare an interest.

Ms Dyer, as chair, do you wish to add anything at the moment?