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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Douglas Ross
Hold on, Professor Gillespie. First of all, if you had watched yesterday’s evidence session, you would have been very clear that the finance director was totally out of his depth in this area. He did not feel that he had the required expertise to deal with the covenant. From listening to him yesterday, I accepted that he would not be passing on advice on the issue, because he was seeking advice himself. I am not sure how you can put all that on him.
You were the accountable officer. You were in charge. You were the principal. By the sound of things, you were not that worried about the situation. You travelled down to London and had an ad hoc conversation about it. There had been a major breach of the finances in your university. You held a very senior position at that time, not just in your university but for universities across Scotland. Are you telling us that you did not inform your own court—which is in charge of governance—about the issue?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Douglas Ross
You found out about the situation in late September or early October. Why did it take until mid-November to contact the Funding Council to alert it?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Douglas Ross
I think that we now have enough context from your very full answers, so if we could just get to the point for the rest of them, please.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Douglas Ross
Okay. Carry on.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Douglas Ross
It was in September or October.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Douglas Ross
Mr Rennie’s first question was on whether there were any complaints about your behaviour. You now seem to know an awful lot about that case—
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Douglas Ross
No—you should have done it. It is not a case of someone typing up something on a bit of paper and asking you to sign it. That is your role and your responsibility, which you had been entrusted with by the Scottish Funding Council, which gives millions of pounds to your university and others. It stipulates that the principal is the accountable officer to ensure that that gets done. It did not get done, so it is your fault.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Douglas Ross
I have to draw the meeting to a close, because we have to conclude before parliamentary business begins in the chamber, but I want to put a couple of final points to you. In response to Miles Briggs, you said that you were honoured to be appointed to a great university. After four years of Iain Gillespie being in charge, is it still a great university?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Douglas Ross
You left the university on Friday and had a weekend at home, thinking that your challenge as principal and vice chancellor would be to save £1.2 million, because that was your deficit. You went in on Monday morning and your interim finance director spoke to you—I assume that you mean Helen Simpson.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Douglas Ross
Did you travel business class to both Iraq and Malawi?