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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Douglas Ross
I am grateful for your time today. I understand that this will not have been easy. I hope that, in some ways, you have been able to put your side of the argument. It is for others to judge the merits or otherwise of what you have told us and what other witnesses have told us. The matter certainly had to be thoroughly investigated and interrogated. You have been part of that by making yourself available today. For that, I thank you.
I thank members for their patience this week, which has been very busy for the committee, especially given the education matters that have been discussed in the chamber.
Meeting closed at 11:30.Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Douglas Ross
You were clearly trying to make the financial statements look better than they were and you were found out days later by the auditors. I will move on to questions from Maggie Chapman.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Douglas Ross
How could the same person who got her forensic analysis of the financial situation correct get her forensic analysis of your leadership style—in your view—wrong?
Pamela Gillies said that you
“tended to control the narrative to Court and elsewhere, consistently painting a picture that all was well in the University”,
that you
“frequently demonstrated hubris ... dangerous over self-confidence and complacency, often in combination with arrogance”,
and that you had an
“overbearing leadership style, behaviours and dislike of potentially awkward confrontations and questioning.”
It was not just one remark; she rips apart your character.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Douglas Ross
Professor Gillespie, the evidence was submitted in order to allow us to question witnesses, including you. Are you saying that you did not prepare for this session by looking at the evidence that has been submitted by others?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Douglas Ross
How could she get that so wrong? And she is not the only one. Did you watch our evidence session yesterday?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Douglas Ross
I find it somewhat ironic that someone who went on 11 foreign trips in two years should criticise other people for not being at the university. However, from your answers to Joe FitzPatrick, I do not quite understand why you then asked your company secretary and chief operating officer to negotiate without prejudice a package for Wendy Alexander to leave.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Douglas Ross
That evidence is on our committee web page. We requested that information and received it. It is available not only so that we can prepare, but also so that you can prepare. Are you saying that you did not look at that in advance of this meeting?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Douglas Ross
You were travelling yesterday. You travel a lot. We will come on to that in a bit.
The evidence that we heard in the session yesterday was not supportive of your leadership style. Were all those witnesses wrong yesterday as well?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Douglas Ross
I am saying that they criticised your leadership style.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Douglas Ross
Why are you the only person that thinks that you were a good leader, whereas Pamela Gillies makes it very clear in her report that your style of leadership was part of the problem here?