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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 September 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you for that opening statement. I am sure that all members of the committee welcome your comments about the staff and the uncertainty at Dundee university. I hope that, in this session, we will get a bit more clarity.

It is useful to hear that the chair of the independent inquiry has been appointed. Can you tell us a little bit more about the inquiry? A lot has been made of the fact that the inquiry will be co-sponsored, and you have mentioned that again today. Where does the responsibility lie? The inquiry must be independent, but obviously you are co-sponsoring it—is “co-sponsoring” the right word? Is that how you describe it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Should that have been done before now? Where does the guilt lie? Is there a responsibility on the SFC, or should the University of Dundee have had that discussion before coming up with the terms of reference for the inquiry?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

I am not keen to stop questions, but I want to keep our focus on the matter. You have made your point and you have done it in the way that you wanted to, but I do not want to get into council tax and where people pay it. Can we please focus our remarks elsewhere?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

But you know why I am asking. Please tell me that you know why.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

There was a password allocated when the plan was sent to the unions, and it included the number of job losses as the numerical reference.

Ms Bey, you seem surprised by that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Do you think that it was crass and wholly inappropriate for the number of job losses to be included in that password?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

If it was not deliberate, it is the most massive coincidence ever. Let us say that it happened and that it was deliberate. Do you believe that it was crass and inappropriate?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you very much.

I have allowed this session to run long, because it is important that we hear the many and varied questions on this issue. There were an awful lot of things that the witnesses said that they would get back to us on, and we would like them to do so as a matter of urgency, given the seriousness of what we are dealing with today. Thank you for your time and the frankness of your answers.

I should also apologise to the Scottish Funding Council witnesses before they get to the table. I appreciate that they have been waiting for quite a long time beyond the allocated start time of their session.

I suspend the meeting for 10 minutes.

11:58 Meeting suspended.  

12:08 On resuming—  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Your terminology of “offering up” is quite interesting. After it made the original announcement in the budget of £15 million, which was the first sum of money, did the Scottish Government, between the date that Shona Robison announced that in the budget debate in the chamber and the past Friday, ask you in those daily or weekly meetings to come forward with more money?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Please do.