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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Douglas Ross
Is this bill not the opportunity to move away from it? I understand restraint as a final tool to stop a child from injuring themselves or others, but seclusion is not really the same, if you are saying that it breaches that child’s human rights.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Douglas Ross
Ross Greer?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Douglas Ross
Ultimately, you believe that there should be no circumstances in which restraint and seclusion would be available. The vast majority of respondents say that they should be available as a last resort. Are you saying that they should be excluded completely?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Douglas Ross
Ms Martin, I come to you. I want to talk particularly about the figures that Ms Sanger gave during her opening remarks that, in the month since the schools went back, 81 families have contacted SHAME with concerns. Is that the type of number that the National Autistic Society is hearing from? Is that the level of the problem that we in Scotland are facing?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Douglas Ross
On that point, do you think that the terminology should be changed if the bill progresses?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Douglas Ross
Thank you. That sets us up very well for the remainder of our evidence session and the further evidence that we will take.
Dr Webster, in your response to the call for views, you say:
“Enable’s own Scottish Council—which sets our campaign priorities—identified ending abusive restraint and seclusion as a top priority in recent years. The overwhelming weight of evidence from our members and others shows that without legislation, children’s rights will continue to be breached.”
You support the bill. Why has it taken us so long to get to this stage, if you and your members and campaigners have been calling for this for many years?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Douglas Ross
Thank you all for your evidence today and your answers to our questions. It has been a very helpful start to our stage 1 consideration of this non-Government bill from Daniel Johnson.
I suspend the meeting briefly.
10:52 Meeting suspended.Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Douglas Ross
No—your evidence says that you want a clear definition, but you also quite clearly state that you
“do not take a position on the preferred definition of restraint and seclusion”.
I thought that you would. There might be some disagreement about the definition, and we can have that debate, but surely you should be able to offer your view, and the commissioner’s office’s view, on a clear definition.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Douglas Ross
I will put to Ms Leitch and then to Mr Higgins another question that I put to the first panel.
As a parent of two children in mainstream education, why do I get a phone call as soon as there is a minor scrape on my child’s knee, but parents whose children are restrained and secluded get no notification at all? Why is that continuing to happen today and why does it take legislation such as the bill to sort that out?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Douglas Ross
Ms Killean, would you like to come in?