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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

If my memory is correct—perhaps the cabinet secretary can confirm this—the committee had a substantial debate about that in relation to a Scottish statutory instrument, which I think that the cabinet secretary spoke to. Indeed, some of us abstained in that vote, because we were concerned about an appointments process that would appoint people to a board or an organisation that did not exist. There have been quite robust debates about the matter in the committee and in the chamber.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

The question is, that amendment 95 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

There will be a division.

For

Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP)
Briggs, Miles (Lothian) (Con)
Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP)
FitzPatrick, Joe (Dundee City West) (SNP)
Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green)
Kidd, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP)
Mason, John (Glasgow Shettleston) (Ind)
Rennie, Willie (North East Fife) (LD)
Ross, Douglas (Highlands and Islands) (Con)

Abstentions

Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab)

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

The question is, that amendment 23 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

The result of the division is: For 9, Against 0, Abstentions 1.

Amendment 113 agreed to.

Section 57, as amended, agreed to.

Section 58 agreed to.

Long Title

Amendment 114 moved—[Ross Greer].

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Sadly, I have called the division. If you had thought of mentioning that before I did so, we could perhaps have considered your request. I apologise to committee members, and I accept responsibility for not allowing Mr Kerr’s views on the topic to be debated.

For

Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green)
Mason, John (Glasgow Shettleston) (Ind)

Against

Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP)
Briggs, Miles (Lothian) (Con)
Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP)
Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab)
FitzPatrick, Joe (Dundee City West) (SNP)
Kidd, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP)
Rennie, Willie (North East Fife) (LD)
Ross, Douglas (Highlands and Islands) (Con)

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

The result of the division is: For 2, Against 8, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 114 disagreed to.

Long title agreed to.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Good morning, and welcome to the 15th meeting in 2025 of the Education, Children and Young People Committee. The first item on our agenda is to hear oral evidence on the Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill at stage 1.

We have two panels of witnesses with us today. I welcome our first panel: Clare Reid, director of policy and public affairs, Prosper; and Professor Nigel Seaton, fellow, Royal Society of Edinburgh. Good morning to you both.

I will kick off the questions. What is the problem that the bill seeks to address and does the bill address it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Similar to my comment to Professor Seaton, I note that housing and skills are not new issues. They have not just come up in recent weeks or months; we have been debating them in the Parliament for many years. Do you think that we have failed to make adequate progress in those areas, if your members are still raising them as key barriers to progress?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

The Prosper submission discusses how apprenticeships work in England, particularly with regard to the flexible workforce development fund. Given that we have different approaches across the UK, are there models, or examples within models, that we could adopt from other parts of the UK that would benefit how we deliver apprenticeships in Scotland?