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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Douglas Ross
I have a final question. We have spoken a lot today about restraint. Do you want to put on record anything in relation to the seclusion element of the bill? I am thinking about any aspect of current practice or what the bill is looking to do around seclusion in particular, and your hopes for the future with regard to that area.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Douglas Ross
Given what you said about consistency and what more you have been doing, it struck me from your evidence that there are a couple of examples where you do not take a position. I would have thought that the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland would have a position on the definition of “restraint” or “seclusion”, and on whether all incidents of restraint and seclusion in schools should be recorded, collated and reported to the Parliament annually.
Given that you are the voice for children and young people and you have an important role in informing the Government and the Parliament, why would you not take a position on those important aspects of the bill?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Douglas Ross
I am speaking personally here: do you understand why some politicians and maybe the public would think that the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland would have an idea of a definition of “restraint” and “seclusion”?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Douglas Ross
So it almost becomes the norm.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Douglas Ross
Particularly when we have examples of families who clearly know that something has happened but do not know what it is.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Douglas Ross
Mr Higgins?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Douglas Ross
I know that we will delve into those issues further, so I will move on to other members. First, I call Jackie Dunbar.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Douglas Ross
My point moves us slightly away from the bill, but it relates to Paul McLennan’s question about the UNCRC.
We are scrutinising a Government bill that has similar problems. These questions are probably best addressed to Nicola Killean. Should there be better guidance? Numerous pieces of legislation are now coming forward that are all potentially becoming unstuck for the same reason. I think that your colleague who spoke to us a couple of weeks ago said that things were the same for the Housing (Scotland) Bill, which is now going through stage 3. There is also a member’s bill, which is being supported by the non-Government bills unit, and a Government-supported bill on the Promise. Why do we have to make corrections to bills later on in the process? Why is that not sorted out to begin with?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Douglas Ross
We move to John Mason.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Douglas Ross
Does it matter whether there is the physical barrier of the locked door or a person, or a verbal instruction not to move?
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