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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 November 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Liz Smith

I understand the point about reflecting what is right for children, and I get the point about the UNCRC. What I and the committee are concerned about and have been concerned about with previous financial memoranda is the process of scrutiny of the figures that go into them. That is our big concern and it has been with various things over the past couple of years. I am just trying to make sure that Parliament is absolutely watertight on that scrutiny.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Liz Smith

Are you able to access the information that you require relatively quickly?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Liz Smith

Does anyone else have any comments on that issue?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Liz Smith

That is interesting, in light of some of the comments that we have picked up in private session—so no names attached—from former civil servants and former ministers. That has been highlighted in The Times newspaper this morning.

Because of the difficulties that you have just cited, do decisions sometimes have to be rushed, and not enough time devoted to thinking through—to pick up on Craig McLaren’s point—exactly how things will be manifested in policy making. Is that a problem?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Liz Smith

That is helpful.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Liz Smith

When the Fraser of Allander Institute, the Carnegie Trust and Audit Scotland came before us, they were all clear about the paramount need for clarity of purpose in policy making—that was pretty much the first thing that they all said. In your relationships with Government, when you have assisted with policy, have you felt that that clarity of purpose was there in each case? If not, can you give us an idea of what the problem was?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Liz Smith

Just on that point, with reference to what Lucy Hughes said, when a policy transcends several Government portfolios—for example, children and young people, or planning—how easy is it to get a common agreement on the delivery of the policy if there are conflicting problems?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Liz Smith

If we find ourselves in a situation in which a particular policy has failed to deliver the good intention, which sometimes happens, are there adequate processes to ensure that a proper review takes place to establish why the good intention was not implemented and to ask what will be done about it the next time, or do we need to make changes to the existing processes? One difficulty is that the Parliament’s post-legislative facility is quite limited—for a start, we do not have a revising chamber, nor do committees have much time to look at what happens when a policy goes wrong. What could be done to mitigate that and to improve the process so that, if there are failures, we do something about them?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Liz Smith

That is an interesting point and an astute observation. Is it a part of the problem that the available data is not as good as it should be?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Liz Smith

I have just one question. If a piece of legislation has not worked very well and has lots of problems, how effective is the post-legislative scrutiny in the Parliament? Would your group ever be involved in considering why a policy commitment has not worked very well?