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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Liz Smith

That is an interesting point and an astute observation. Is it a part of the problem that the available data is not as good as it should be?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Liz Smith

When the Fraser of Allander Institute, the Carnegie Trust and Audit Scotland came before us, they were all clear about the paramount need for clarity of purpose in policy making—that was pretty much the first thing that they all said. In your relationships with Government, when you have assisted with policy, have you felt that that clarity of purpose was there in each case? If not, can you give us an idea of what the problem was?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Liz Smith

Just on that point, with reference to what Lucy Hughes said, when a policy transcends several Government portfolios—for example, children and young people, or planning—how easy is it to get a common agreement on the delivery of the policy if there are conflicting problems?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Liz Smith

Does anyone else have any comments on that issue?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Liz Smith

That is interesting, in light of some of the comments that we have picked up in private session—so no names attached—from former civil servants and former ministers. That has been highlighted in The Times newspaper this morning.

Because of the difficulties that you have just cited, do decisions sometimes have to be rushed, and not enough time devoted to thinking through—to pick up on Craig McLaren’s point—exactly how things will be manifested in policy making. Is that a problem?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Liz Smith

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Liz Smith

I have just one question. If a piece of legislation has not worked very well and has lots of problems, how effective is the post-legislative scrutiny in the Parliament? Would your group ever be involved in considering why a policy commitment has not worked very well?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Liz Smith

Your first example about biodiversity is a classic example, because the data that you need will not exist until years from now. That might be slightly different from the business case for deciding on business rates or whatever, because that detail potentially exists, although you might not have it. In the case of biodiversity, the data that you need on which to base policy might not come for another five or 10 years. An example of that is moorlands—we were having that debate last year or the year before. To what extent is that a serious problem for the Government in devising policy? Effectively, there is nothing that it can do to get that data.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability Report)

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Liz Smith

I do not think that there is much scope to be able to reduce costs. As you rightly say, if we want a world-class health service, costs are going to rise in that sector more than they will in the rest of the economy. That has been the nature of health service costs for a long time.

Is there scope for reform elsewhere, in the non-health, non-social security aspects of the economy, that could help us to make some savings?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Liz Smith

I will come to other two gentlemen, but first, when you say that there is a case for making better use of the existing data, what is it that acts as a barrier to doing that?