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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 April 2024
Liz Smith
Good morning, Ms MacMillan. You have made it very clear that you had a specific remit, which was about advocacy for those with a disability and autism and in relation to their vulnerability. Nonetheless, the title of your report from March 2023 is “The role of commissions and commissioners in Scotland and the UK”. Does it strike you that your very specific remit does not quite fit with that title?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 April 2024
Liz Smith
If you are considering potential overlap, that means that comments must have been provided about other commissioners. Did those comments not raise questions? Let me put it this way: do you think that there should be an overall strategy for commissions?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 April 2024
Liz Smith
I will ask one more question, specifically on the issue of an autism and learning disability commissioner. Do you feel that the demand for the new commissioner resulted from the needs of those vulnerable groups of people not being as well looked after as those of other groups? Has that situation arisen, because there are gaps in the care that they fully deserve and to which they are entitled, or has the proposal been made in addition to the care that is provided?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 April 2024
Liz Smith
May I just pursue that? With all due respect, this committee is looking at the big picture. The committee needs to do that from the perspective of getting an overview and carrying out scrutiny, but it needs to look at the cost aspect, too. Therefore, when I see the title of that report, I think that it is exactly what the committee wants to look at—the role of commissions and commissioners in Scotland and the impact that the UK might have on that.
The issue that the committee has to look at is commissioners who have different roles. You have been very clear that your research relates to advocacy for one particular group, but there are other commissioners, some of whom handle complaints, some of whom have a regulatory role and some of whom have an investigatory role. The committee wants some idea of the whole picture. With regard to your specific remit, do you have any concern that there is no overall strategy for that bigger picture and what it might be?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 April 2024
Liz Smith
I am sorry, but I did not say that—I did not say that at all. What I am saying is that it is only part of the bigger picture.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 April 2024
Liz Smith
—and what I am asking in relation to the title that you presented the committee with, which is the issue that we want to delve into, is whether your specific role would raise questions about the overall strategy for commissioners in general. I am asking whether that came up, either in your own research or with the people to whom you spoke.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 April 2024
Liz Smith
I fully understand that you have been examining one specific aspect; indeed, you have said so several times now. However, have questions not been raised about the overall role of commissioners and their respective staff and how they are serving Scotland? Has that not come through your research at all?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 26 March 2024
Liz Smith
It is a long-standing convention of this Parliament—rightly so, as the convener has set out—that the financial memorandum must be presented in time for the legislative process. That is not after stage 2. If that is a misunderstanding, we have to correct that very quickly.
I suggest that there is also a wider problem here. We have to ensure that any legislation that we pass in this Parliament is fit for purpose and is good law. Whether parties vote in favour of or against the bill is not the main point. The main point is whether the financial memorandum is factually correct and whether the evidence supports it. At the moment, it is very difficult for us to understand why a bill team thought that it was appropriate to come with the numbers after stage 2, which is after the committee stage as well as the stage 1 debate in Parliament. Do you accept that we are right to have those concerns?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 26 March 2024
Liz Smith
Good morning. Mr Thomson, the problem that this committee has, which the convener has rightly pointed to, is that we are asked to scrutinise the numbers that have to go behind a bill. This is the fourth bill in recent months about which we have had concerns because the accuracy of the numbers does not suit the scrutiny that we have to provide. Do you accept that, when a bill team makes a presentation to Parliament, it is essential that the financial memorandum that goes with the bill is understood and clearly set out before we get to any legislative process? Do you accept that as a bill team?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 26 March 2024
Liz Smith
It would be very helpful if we could get details on when we might expect the revised financial memorandum, convener.