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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Medium-term Financial Strategy

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

Liz Smith

On the discussions about the forthcoming new fiscal framework, which will replace the 2016 version, are you aware of any dialogue about the forecasting element?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Medium-term Financial Strategy

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

Liz Smith

Just to finish off on that point, at your breakfast in the Parliament event some weeks ago, we focused on the potential high-growth areas of financial services, renewables, digital industries and technology. Are there other areas of the workforce where we have a chance of better, higher-paid jobs that will widen that tax base?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

Liz Smith

You said something very interesting about some people in the workforce taking a territorial approach. The same is also true of patients and families, who get very attached to their local hospital or medical service; indeed, we have seen what can happen when there is any hint that a hospital will be closed or that certain parts of it will be shut. However, you are correct to say that, for the benefit of medical services in the future, that is exactly what will have to happen to make the system more efficient. Given the nature of the reform that is needed, do you have any suggestions for what we should do to bring the public with us? I think that that will be a very difficult challenge.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

Liz Smith

You are, in effect, saying that the better decisions—and the ones that will probably be more accepted by the public—will be those made by clinicians and medics rather than by administrators.

In relation to the Covid era, it is interesting that, given how serious the situation was for everybody, decision making in hospitals was pretty effective, because clinicians decided how they had to run the wards. It provides quite an interesting lesson for the future, as it shows how incredibly important clinicians and medics will be in changing the health service’s whole set-up. I am interested in hearing your views on how easy it is in modern health services to ensure that the medics, rather than the administrators, take these decisions.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Liz Smith

I am really interested in that. Reading the room, I can see that the potential for change is considerable, but there are quite a lot of difficulties in the way. We need to work out how we might address those.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Liz Smith

Is there a dearth of people with the right skills or is the competition so wide that everybody is trying to access those people?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Liz Smith

I just want to know whether data sharing can work. Most of the witnesses have said that the potential is very considerable, but we have to make it work.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Liz Smith

I come back to the question about data sharing. Four of you have been up front about saying that there is considerable potential in that regard if we get it right, but you have flagged up issues around cybersecurity, the right kind of employment and confidentiality.

Are there any other potential barriers to that? Secondly, are they surmountable?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Liz Smith

Obviously, there is a difference between the tax structures and the rates of tax, which, in many ways, tend to be much more political.

Ms Payne, when you answered the first question, you recommended that, with tax, we need to ensure that Scotland is competitive and is the best place to come to live, work and invest in. What recommendations would you make to ensure that, on a tax structure basis, Scotland is more competitive with the rest of the UK and, indeed, other countries?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 23 May 2023

Liz Smith

Several months ago, when we had the Scottish Fiscal Commission in giving evidence on the general economic situation, it was strong in its view that a number of stakeholders—not just political parties—should be involved in a tax commission to look at the issue. Do you subscribe to the view that that would ensure that we would get at least some kind of consensus on what is economically and socially good for the country, rather than what is the political agenda? Would Reform Scotland support that?