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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Liz Smith

If you are making the point that your confidence in the financial memorandum is 10 out of 10, why is it that the witnesses from whom we have taken evidence say that theirs is at four or five? Why is there that discrepancy? What has gone wrong there?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Liz Smith

I will follow on from Michelle Thomson’s line of questioning, which is important. Standing orders say that a financial memorandum must set out the

“best estimates of the costs, savings, and changes to revenues to which the provisions of the Bill would give rise, and an indication of the margins of uncertainty in such estimates. The Financial Memorandum must also include best estimates of the timescales over which such costs, savings, and changes to revenues would be expected to arise.”

You have put it on record this morning that you think that this financial memorandum is 10 out of 10 when it comes to confidence. In relation to the timescales that you are setting out, are you absolutely confident that that is correct?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Liz Smith

If teachers and non-teaching staff have had that uplift, what are the implications for the next budget with regard to those pay settlements?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Liz Smith

All of it?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Liz Smith

The logic of what you are saying is that, if you have 10 out of 10 confidence in this, you feel that that degree of certainty and clarity is there. We have witnesses who say that that is not the case. I am asking why you think there is this discrepancy in the degree of confidence in the financial memorandum. That is a serious concern for the committee, because it is our job to scrutinise that. I ask you again: why do you think there is that discrepancy?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

Liz Smith

Do you accept that, because that detail is not there, our job is pretty well impossible?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Liz Smith

That takes me back to my question about responsibility for the costs.

All the previous speakers have commented on behavioural change, which I agree is critical to solving a lot of the issues. We have a big job to do to get people to understand the implications of not taking a responsible attitude to waste management. I agree that there is a lot of confusion. In Perth and Kinross, two excellent new bins have appeared for cans, plastics and tins, but there are two existing bins that take the same things plus cardboard and paper. We now have other bins for those things as well. All those bins exist and nobody is quite sure where to put anything. I cite that as an example. It would be very helpful if local authorities were extremely clear about what waste goes where, because that confusion must have a cost implication.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Liz Smith

Has there been an increase in the number of people who are using the centres?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Liz Smith

You have all been extremely helpful in telling us where you think the costs might have been underestimated and about some of the difficulties that we have to consider regarding the financial memorandum. Do you think that there could be more clarity about where responsibility for the costs will fall between national Government, local government and SEPA? Is there sufficient clarity on who will be responsible for which costs?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Liz Smith

On public education and information, what have you found to be the most successful channel to ensure that people adhere to the right processes? Is it putting leaflets through doors or telling people that their bin is contaminated and they have to sort it out? What has been the most effective way of communicating?