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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 June 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Financial Considerations When Leaving an Abusive Relationship

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Liz Smith

Whether we are talking about south or north of the border, to ensure that social security is effective, in the context of the whole system, we have to be compassionate and understanding about those who are genuinely in need, and that approach has been the overall intention of the Scottish Government. The problem is that, if you become more compassionate, less adversarial and less intrusive, as the Scottish Legal Aid board was arguing, you might miss out on some essential information that the individual might not give you for whatever reason. That is quite a substantial problem, because these are the most vulnerable people whom we are trying to support. If they do not provide the information because it is not being asked for, there is a difficulty.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Financial Considerations When Leaving an Abusive Relationship

Meeting date: 22 May 2025

Liz Smith

Again, it was a point that came up from the Scottish Legal Aid Board’s evidence. The whole basis for that approach is to make things as easy as possible and ensure that those who are most in need get the support and benefits that they require. At the moment, there seems to be a grey area—let us call it that—as to how we go about that. That has come right through the evidence that we have taken, and it is about ensuring not just that the Scottish Government is aware of all that but that, through its various agencies, it can address some of those concerns. The big conundrum is that compassion is all very well, but, if that approach does not drill down on the information that we need, we will not get very far.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Liz Smith

Do people demand judge-led public inquiries, because they believe that that person will have the legal authority and standing to get more out of the evidence?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Liz Smith

In answer to Mr Mason, you implied that the demand for public inquiries was growing. Is one of the reasons for that increase the fact that public services in the UK, not just in Scotland, are not delivering satisfactory answers when something goes wrong?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Liz Smith

Indeed—I really think that that is quite a serious issue, and it is one of the reasons for the increasing demand for specific public inquiries. Actually, I think that it is also a reason why inquiries are taking longer—the to-ing and fro-ing that is needed to get the information required takes an awfully long time, and the costs multiply. It is partly the hidden costs that result in the process taking such a long time; redaction, for example, is vital for data confidentiality and so on.

However, there is a real issue with the amount of time that the process itself takes. There is frustration with that, because some of the answers should have been provided before by some of the agencies that have been accused of a lack of accountability and of not taking responsibility. That is a major issue. Do you have any thoughts about what we can do to improve that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Liz Smith

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Liz Smith

I have just a very short question. Do you think that the Parliament needs to look at the Inquiries Act 2005?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Liz Smith

How does the advisory group on tax strategy input into that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Liz Smith

I understand that. That is interesting because, if the group is providing advice about behavioural changes, surely that is extremely important for any decision that the Government comes to in relation to a strategy that will provide you with extra revenue and enable you to control public finances. How easy is it for you, as the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government, to be able to take on board the facts that the Fiscal Commission has given you and also the advice—and it is advice—that your tax group is providing? That advice includes behavioural change. The Fiscal Commission says that behaviour is crucial for the amount of revenue that you are likely to bring in, not just now but in years hence.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Liz Smith

I understand that; they probably could not be reconciled at all. Nevertheless, you have to make a decision, in setting your policy, as to which views you consider most important, and that has to correlate—I would hope—with the information that the Scottish Fiscal Commission and the other economic forecasters have provided. It is on that aspect that there are some issues to do with a lack of transparency.

I know that it would be for the Parliament to decide on this, but does the Scottish Government have a view on the possibility of introducing a finance bill in this parliamentary session? Such a bill could be important as it would not only put the Government’s tax-and-spend priorities on a legal basis but enable the Parliament to scrutinise that in the usual way during the passage of the bill. Is the Government open to doing that?