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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 30 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Graham Simpson

It will be early next year—is that right?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Graham Simpson

I will stick with you, Mr Boyd. Paragraph 65 of the report goes on to say:

“Councils provide high-level reports on expenditure through Local Finance Returns but this does not provide a detailed breakdown and no collective figures are published for flood expenditure.

Stakeholders have highlighted that there is a risk that funds allocated for flooding within councils may have been redirected to other priorities.”

That is quite a claim. Has that been happening?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Graham Simpson

Perhaps someone from Scottish Water is watching, and they can get back to us.

In the interests of time, I will leave it there.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Graham Simpson

Okay. Fair enough.

I go back to funding. We have touched on major schemes. The biggest scheme, which has not been started yet but is in the pipeline, I hope, is Grangemouth. By the way, anyone can answer this question.

Mr Burnish referenced that schemes could take five years, but Grangemouth has already taken far longer. There was an initial public consultation as far back as 2018, but we still have not agreed who is going to pay for it. It could cost north of £600 million. It is clear that Falkirk Council cannot afford to pay for that. It is a huge scheme—it will be the biggest in Scotland and one of the biggest in the UK if it goes ahead. Can anyone tell me how that should be paid for?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Graham Simpson

You are not telling us anything that we did not know already. You have said that, in your view, it might be done in chunks rather than as one big scheme.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Graham Simpson

Okay.

Mr Brannen, you said that you found a couple of the recommendations to be challenging from the point of view of timing. Which ones were you referring to?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Graham Simpson

That all comes back to what we have been discussing, does it not, Mr Brannen? We have discussed with COSLA already today the issue of funding. For big schemes, small councils—or even large councils—could not possibly afford £600 million if that is the end result. It is a scheme of national significance. It is really important that the Government works with councils to decide how a scheme of that scale should be funded.

I know where we are. There is a local inquiry, and I know about the task force. However, at the end of the day we need to agree on who is going to pay for it, do we not?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Graham Simpson

I refer you to paragraph 65 of the Auditor General’s report, bits of which were quite extraordinary. First, it says:

“There are significant gaps in data in relation to the annual allocation of money to councils for flooding by the Scottish Government”.

It goes on to say:

“The Scottish Government does not publish annual allocations to individual councils for major flood schemes or general flooding activity. The funding is provided via the General Capital Grant, therefore the Scottish Government does not monitor how annual allocations are spent by councils.”

Why on earth not?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Graham Simpson

Perhaps that is a question for COSLA, then.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Graham Simpson

What about the sentence on stakeholders saying that there is a risk that funds for flooding may have been redirected to other things? Is that actually going on?