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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 30 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee [Draft}

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Graham Simpson

That is the way it looks to me, but I will ask you one final question. The report highlights the need for a more person-centred and trauma-informed approach to ADP. What specific changes do you think Social Security Scotland should implement to achieve this?

Public Audit Committee [Draft}

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Graham Simpson

You are right—it is complicated. It struck me that we could get to 2030 and some parts of the system will have improved. Some people going through the system will say that they have had a good experience and others will not say that. Therefore, when we get to 2030, it will be very difficult to say whether the Promise, whatever that means to you, has been delivered. I am just making that point.

However, what the Promise means, whatever that is, seems to be confusing for the various bodies that are tasked with delivering the Promise. It comes out in your report that it seems to mean different things to different people or different bodies. Is that a fair summary?

Public Audit Committee [Draft}

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Graham Simpson

I want to follow up on what you were saying about eligibility and whether we monitor whether the payment improves people’s lives. You seem to be saying that there is no data on that, so we do not know what difference that has made to people, if any. Do you not think that there should be some research into that?

Public Audit Committee [Draft}

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Graham Simpson

My next question is, if our starting point is that the care system needs to be improved and we will—I will put it this way—promise to improve it, that is the Promise. What do we mean by that? How do we measure that? What constitutes meeting the Promise to improve the care system by 2030? When we get to 2030, what needs to have happened?

Public Audit Committee [Draft}

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Graham Simpson

But you told us earlier that, if the Government followed your recommendations, it would cost more.

Public Audit Committee [Draft}

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Graham Simpson

Yes, you did.

We have mentioned the oversight board, and we had correspondence from the chair of the oversight board, David Anderson. I will read a couple of excerpts from that, and I will ask you to tell me what you think. He said:

“Progress to deliver The Promise has been too slow, accountability remains unclear, and planning across government and partners has not been coordinated in a way that gives confidence that – given we are at the halfway mark - enough meaningful change is being achieved.”

I assume from your report that you agree with that.

Public Audit Committee [Draft}

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Graham Simpson

Okay. Mr Anderson also said:

“Slow progress cannot be explained by complexity alone”—

we have heard that it is complex. He continued:

“It reflects the absence of timely decision-making and clear ownership within Government. When leadership hesitates, systems drift. The barrier is often not process but people. We have seen decisions delayed, accountability avoided, and the urgency of lived experience overlooked.”

That is pretty strong stuff. What is your comment on that?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Graham Simpson

Well, Scottish Water is not here.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Graham Simpson

Are those cases in which you have said, “You shouldn’t be building there, because there’s a risk of flooding,” and councils have said, “Actually, we’re going to ignore that—we’re going to approve it”?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Graham Simpson

I will ask about funding, but, before I do so, I want to pick up on a couple of things that you said, Mr Brannen. You mentioned the flooding advisory service. Can you tell us when you expect that to be set up?