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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Graham Simpson
It is very challenging. It would be lovely if that was to come about, but I really cannot see it.
Significant additional funding has been provided to reduce waiting lists, but—as we have said—long waits remain high in many areas. Is there any evidence that that investment is delivering improvements for boards?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Graham Simpson
How many of them actually have a frailty unit?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Graham Simpson
Is it the case that we have not been able to open enough of those units?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Graham Simpson
Thank you convener. [Interruption.] My microphone seems not to be working. It is now.
I will stick to the theme and ask about Historic Environment Scotland, which appears in the consolidated accounts. As you said earlier, you have produced a report on it, which was out yesterday. I was aghast when I read it. It reminded me of WICS and the work that we did on that. Some aspects of the report were very familiar.
HES had no chief executive or accountable officer for six months. There were other aspects that I found very concerning, and that is concerning in itself.
Complimentary tickets were dished out for events at HES venues almost willy-nilly. I do not know how many people were involved.
There were over 400 electronic purchasing cards—maybe there still are—and one in four members of staff had those cards.
There were some specific examples of wholly inappropriate spending, including on a leaving do for a board member. Public money was used for somebody’s leaving do, including for a bar bill. I think that some of that was repaid. Some money was spent on a replacement kitchen. I do not know whether that was somebody’s personal kitchen or whether it was at an HES venue—it is not clear—but that bust the spending limit. There was also £2.9 million on the cancelled archive house project in Bonnyrigg.
Then we have—and this was very familiar from the WICS report—spending on foreign travel, almost half of which was not properly authorised. It gives the impression of an organisation in which controls are lax; in fact, spending was out of control. Would you concur with my analysis?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Graham Simpson
Okay. I know that you are going to come back and that we will ask you about it in more detail, but I wonder whether you know anything about the nature of the foreign travel that was undertaken. What were those trips for? Do you have any information about that?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Graham Simpson
Thank you. I will finish with a question on public sector pay policy. You mention it in paragraph 58, which I think is a significant paragraph. It refers to that policy, but the Government ignored the policy and rolled over to the unions. [Interruption.] Yes, I did not think that the convener would like that one, but that is what happened. As you say in the report,
“This introduces additional recurring financial pressures in the short term and has not mitigated the future year risks given many of the two-year deals agreed include inflation guarantees.”
Presumably, you think that the approach taken there is unsustainable.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Graham Simpson
Thank you—and I say to the convener that I am sorry for annoying him.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Graham Simpson
Okay. [Interruption.] There is a problem with the mics, so you might have to turn yours off manually. Thank you.
The information about the kitchen is reassuring. What is not reassuring is that it appears that we have in this organisation a very lax approach to spending money. I accept that it raises a lot of money and generates income for the taxpayer. However, that does not give someone the right, if they work for Historic Environment Scotland, to spend money as they wish, which appears, in some cases at least, to have been happening. That cannot just have been down to the lack of an accountable officer for six months, can it?
11:00Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Graham Simpson
When you come back—I think in January—we will be asking for a lot more detail on some of this stuff. Okay, I will move on.
There are 125 devolved public bodies. Do you know what the combined budget for those is?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Graham Simpson
I am going to ask you about the medium-term financial strategy and then I will ask about workforce reform to finish.
I think that the medium-term financial strategy paints a rather grim picture. You say that the financial position of the Scottish public sector is unsustainable. To me, that suggests profligate spending habits by the Government. At a household level, if you spent more than you were taking in for any period of time, you would pretty soon be in trouble. The Government is not going to go bust, but if it continues down the road that it is on, what could happen?