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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 9 November 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

No, I do not think so. The provision aims to capture people—I am not going to name names—who have just decided that they are not going to come in. It has happened in councils and it will happen here. I hope that it is a rare event, but people are people—

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

The parliamentary authorities would have to come up with a system for monitoring attendance. I am not going to lay that out in detail—I do not think that that would be right. This committee would certainly have a role if somebody was falling foul of the requirement to attend, and we have to trust the members of this committee to keep issues private, as they do—I think that this committee works very well.

In previous meetings, the issue arose of whether, in such cases, this committee should have lay members, so that decisions could be de-politicised. The bill does not address that, but it is perhaps something that should be considered.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

I am confident that the members of this committee would ensure that stuff did not leak. It would be a serious matter if it did. Membership of this committee comes with certain responsibilities, and confidentiality is one of them. I have never sat on this committee, but I am sure that you deal with things that are confidential, and there have been no leaks. We just have to trust members of this committee to do their job.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

The bill does define it. Section 26(2) states:

“due to the person’s failure to physically attend proceedings as a member, the Parliament has resolved to disqualify the person in accordance with standing orders made by virtue of section 27 of the Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Act 2025.”

That is the vote that you would have in order to disqualify the person in accordance with standing orders.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

It means physically being in a committee meeting or in the chamber.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

Here—this Parliament.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

It means attending a committee meeting such as this one or a session in the chamber; it does not mean attending a cross-party group or a reception in the Parliament.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

Correct. You need to turn up only once every six months. As Emma Roddick said, doing so is not particularly onerous. Perhaps I am being too lenient.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

—but that is not a reason to remove somebody from their elected position.

The tests are set out in the bill. They would need to actually break certain rules, which are set out in the bill. It is not enough to say, “I don’t like that person. I don’t like the way they have gone about that campaign,” or whatever. No chance.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

In cases such as that, people are entitled to a degree of privacy. I know that we will come on to talk about non-attendance, but you have raised it. Let us that say somebody has an illness—this has happened. MSPs fall ill, which means that they cannot come in for a period of time. We would not expect somebody to lose their job because of that, and, if the MSP wanted it to be private, we would expect it to be private. Things happen in people’s lives that mean that they cannot come into work and they deserve that level of privacy. I am trying to maintain that.

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