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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 October 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

This committee has a role and parliamentary authorities have a role. It is quite easy to monitor whether somebody is in a committee room or in the chamber. All my bill does is say that you should actually be present. Any of you could be recorded as being present today—you do not even have to speak; you just have to be here. The requirement is not particularly onerous, to be honest.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

I have attempted to improve things in that regard. In England, if an MP is subject to a recall, there is a six-week period in which people can vote. In the bill, I have reduced that to four weeks. That is a pretty good improvement that shows that we can do things better here.

That was in response to the Electoral Commission. As I said last week, I have been working closely with the Electoral Commission, which has been in touch about a number of areas of the bill that it thinks could be improved. I am not sitting here saying that the bill is perfect—no bill is perfect. This process needs to be a collaborative effort between me and the committee, me and the Government and me and the Electoral Commission, with all of us trying to come up with something that actually works.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

I genuinely do not see how it would be. There would need to be a religious holiday of six months, and I do not think that there are any such holidays. I really do not see religion coming into play.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

Well, you could—

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

My bill deals with the individual, regardless of party. The party does not really come into it. I am giving the individual the opportunity to say to the electorate that they should keep their job, regardless of whether they are backed by their original party. I imagine that there will be a lot of cases in which, if somebody has erred so badly that they are subject to a recall vote—this will happen at some point—the party, whichever one it is, might simply wash its hands of that individual, who might then be on their own. However, they, as an individual, should have the opportunity to say that they should keep their job.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

Well, that is the reality. The only case that we have had in Scotland was in Rutherglen, when Margaret Ferrier was subject to a recall. We would not have found a single person in Rutherglen who was not aware of what was going on.

I accept that there are greater challenges when it comes to regional MSPs, because there is more ground to cover. There would have to be a lot of publicity and a good deal of education. If the system that I am proposing was accepted, we would have to explain to people why they were being asked to vote or go to the polls twice.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

You really do.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

Correct.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

I have not considered that. I would need to give that some thought. Given that you have raised that option, I am just trying to think it through. A lot of people like to vote in person—I am one of those people.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

The person would actually have to be locked up.