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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Graham Simpson

One section of the report, which we have referred to already, is on staffing. The report says that there is an expected reduction of around 2,300 full-time equivalent staff in the college sector, which is one in five staff. How will colleges be able to continue with that reduced level of staffing?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Graham Simpson

You are saying that four colleges have significant issues. I do not want to put words in your mouth but, to summarise, the Government might have to bail them out through the SFC.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Graham Simpson

Okay. I want to ask quickly about arm’s-length foundations. Indeed, this point is mentioned in the recent report. It is really a question for you again, Karen Watt. In a previous evidence session, I mentioned the fact that we saw quite a large transfer of money to the arm’s-length foundation in South Lanarkshire in 2022. It was half a million pounds; it was extremely unusual. I do not really want to ask about that particular college, but what can those funds be used for and what can they not be used for?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Graham Simpson

It is short. We have heard in previous evidence that the problem is the timescales of budgets. The Scottish Government budget runs on the normal financial year, but colleges are funded for the academic year. Is that something that you have looked at, Mr Rennick?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Graham Simpson

That was useful. If an individual college came to you and said, “We’ve got some problems here”, you would not so much step in—that is probably the wrong phrase—as help out.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Graham Simpson

So, those meetings will be put in place.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Graham Simpson

If colleges are having to get rid of that number of people, which, to me, sounds like it could be unsustainable for some colleges, is there any extra support with voluntary severance payments? Are they getting extra money for that?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Graham Simpson

I will switch back to you, Karen Watt. In previous sessions, I have asked about the risk register that the SFC keeps. I could be wrong about this, but my understanding is that five colleges are listed as black, which is the worst position. What is the current position with the risk register?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Graham Simpson

Are you able to say which four colleges you are talking about?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Graham Simpson

What do you mean by structural options?