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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 September 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Graham Simpson

I am seeing somebody else nodding. Who is that? It is Paula Fraser, I think.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Graham Simpson

I go back to Jo Anderson. You mentioned the model in NHS England. Why are we not doing something similar? Why is NHS Scotland not doing it? Has anyone asked it to do that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Graham Simpson

Yes. If people are going to do something, whatever it is, they need to know that it is working and why it works—or why it does not work. You are billed here as the voice of experience, so tell us about your experience.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Graham Simpson

Yes. By the way, the witnesses who are online can just put up their hands or whatever they need to do online to come in—it does not all have to be Jo Anderson. However, something that Jo said struck me, because I think that it affects everyone and not just people who are suffering with mental health problems. Getting to see your GP is probably more difficult now than it ever has been.

If someone has a mental health issue—as we all know, there is a broad range of mental health issues—their first step is to get past a receptionist, who they might have to phone up to see their GP. If their GP is anything like mine, they will have to describe their condition, but they might not want to tell somebody who is not a GP that they have a mental health issue. Do witnesses think that that is putting people off even seeking help, let alone getting it?

I suppose the follow-up question is whether the GP is the best person to go to, or whether there is anywhere else that people could go.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Graham Simpson

While Kirsten Urquhart is still with us—I know that you have to shoot off—I want to come back to your comment that the world feels like a “heavy place for everyone”. Is there a danger of giving the impression that we have a nation of stressed-out young people who are struggling with life? That is not the case for every young person, is it? Some young people struggle, but not everyone is in that place, and we do not want to give that impression, do we?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Graham Simpson

There are examples in Scotland of various organisations doing their own thing but, as you say, we do not have a nationwide approach.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Graham Simpson

Obviously, coercion is a big deal for you—you have mentioned it quite a few times. Does anyone else want to come in? I am going to look at a screen with lots of faces on it and—

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Graham Simpson

You could do that afterwards. I am not asking you to read out all 13—that might take some time.

I note that one of the projects mentioned in exhibit 5 is the dualling of the A9. In the other three projects highlighted as examples in that exhibit, you have given figures for cost increases, but I note that you have not done the same for the A9. Is it possible to produce a figure for how much costs have increased over time from when the project was first announced?

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Graham Simpson

But in the exhibit, you give a figure of £3 billion.

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Graham Simpson

How should the Government address that?