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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Graham Simpson
I have a couple of questions, convener, if you do not mind.
I just want to get it clear in my head how this operates in practice. You have all these bodies taking part and sharing information about people, but how does it work? Is there a constant sharing of information, with computer systems talking to each other, and then at some point somebody will flash up on a screen as having done something wrong, or are people poring over documents, trying to join dots and pick up fraud?
09:15Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Graham Simpson
Does anyone get prosecuted as a result of this exercise?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Graham Simpson
Do you know how many?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Graham Simpson
Are the four or five referrals that you mentioned in Scotland or across the UK?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Graham Simpson
Has there ever been a cost benefit analysis of the national fraud initiative?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Graham Simpson
Is that something that should be considered going forward?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Graham Simpson
Okay. The convener wants me to ask about specific areas, and I am quite happy to do that.
If we look at payroll, there has been an issue with including—or not including—immigration data. I noted that it had not been included in two years—2018-19 and 2020-21. You had some comments on that. What would be the value of including that sort of data?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Graham Simpson
So, that is because of the Home Office.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Graham Simpson
Audit Scotland has commented previously that immigration data could, for example, help to identify students who are getting funding from the Student Awards Agency for Scotland when they are not entitled to it. That is quite important, is it not?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Graham Simpson
Right. It seems to be really important to have that information. Just to accept the situation—just to accept what the Home Office is saying—is maybe not the right approach. Maybe somebody should be going back to the Home Office to say, “This information is almost vital to this exercise, so could you provide it?” Can you test it again?