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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Graham Simpson

Absolutely. That is good. I like that answer.

I will ask just one more question about trains, because I know that we are up against the clock. Where are we with the pay talks with the RMT?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Graham Simpson

That is fine. Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Graham Simpson

Thanks very much. I was name checked in relation to drinking on trains—not that I drink on trains, of course—because I have had discussions with the cabinet secretary about the issue.

Cabinet secretary, you know my view on train fares. They need to be simple, which is what you think, too. I would love to have smart ticketing, and things are going a bit too slowly in that regard. On fares and tickets, ScotRail has a price promise that guarantees that, if you can find a cheaper ticket, it will reimburse you, but I have become aware of an issue. If a journey involves changing trains and you buy a ticket from a ticket machine, as I think you did the other day—well, you were pictured next to one—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Graham Simpson

If more than one journey is involved, it can be cheaper to buy tickets for individual journeys or to use a different app, such as Trainline, rather than buying a ticket from a ticket machine or through the ScotRail website. When I looked into that, I found that there were some quite big differences. For instance, if I were to go from East Kilbride, where I live, to Aberdeen, by booking separate journeys or by using Trainline, I could make a saving of around £30. Similarly, I could save £28 on the journey from Stewarton to Montrose, and £13 on the journey from Kyle of Lochalsh to Invergordon. The issue is the same no matter where you look.

I am trying to be helpful here. That needs to be looked at, because when you book a train through the ScotRail website, which many people do, you should get the cheapest deal.

Public Audit Committee

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Graham Simpson

You can see the risk, can you not? If his bid were to succeed and another bid did not, could there not be a perception of it being a bit of an inside job?

Public Audit Committee

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Graham Simpson

That is a bit of a concern. We were all clear—and the Deputy First Minister was absolutely clear—that a decision needed to be made imminently. We are now several weeks after when we met, so why has that decision not been made yet?

09:45  

Public Audit Committee

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Graham Simpson

Yes.

Public Audit Committee

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Graham Simpson

How many?

Public Audit Committee

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Graham Simpson

Are you waiting for legal advice on that?

Public Audit Committee

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 30 May 2024

Graham Simpson

With all due respect, Mr Irwin, we have known about this for some time. In December, I received a written answer from the former cabinet secretary, Neil Gray, when I asked him what subsidy control rules prevented the David Tydeman request. He said:

“The independent due diligence on Ferguson Marine’s initial capital investment request concluded that the initial business case would not meet the Commercial Market Operator test, which is a key legal requirement if we are to demonstrate compliance with the subsidy control regime.”—[Written Answers, 11 December 2023; S6W-23299.]

Given that you have just mentioned that issue, have we not answered that question yet?