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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 October 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

Thank you. Mhairi Dawson, I have a final question for you. From a land management and farming perspective, are there potential benefits to farming and crofting as a result of the new national park, based on your discussions with NatureScot?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

From the evidence that we have heard so far, it strikes me that perhaps the starting point in all this is to have a definition of a national park and what it should achieve. For some people, it might be a pristine landscape without any land management, in which case, biodiversity will undoubtedly reduce. Loch Lomond and the Trossachs clearly has lots of tourism—Loch Lomond Shores has amazing facilities to attract tourists—but then the national park did not want more tourists to go there. Before we get to the stage of presenting to the people of Galloway, we need a starting point as to what we are presenting.

Nick Kempe has touched on this, but, based on the two existing national parks, is there an adequate definition of what a new national park might look like and what the experience would be for both visitors and local residents?

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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

One of our other petitions is about what are colloquially referred to as pylons. We have heard that that consultation basically said, “These are coming, so there’s no option here.” I know that the formal consultation period for the park has not started yet but, from what you have seen so far, has the consultation been framed in a way that says that the national park is coming and that the options are, in essence, about what the boundaries will be?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

Mhairi Dawson, we have heard that there is not a clear understanding of what NatureScot and the Scottish Government propose for Galloway and that the consultation process thus far has been inadequate. What is your assessment?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

I am quite interested in the public consultation and, if you like, the definition or the proposal. In consultations from local authorities, the Scottish Government or, indeed, non-departmental public bodies, it is often quite difficult to understand exactly what the proposal is and what it means. I know that the formal consultation is about to start, but, from your assessment, is NatureScot able to say, for example, “We know that Loch Lomond and the Trossachs has Loch Lomond shores and Cairngorms has Aviemore; this is the version of that in Galloway, which will mean economic and tourism benefits, but these are the downsides in relation to house prices or congestion,” or, “There will be a commitment from the Scottish Government to upgrade the A75 as a result of this”? Can that vision be presented over the next couple of weeks and throughout the consultation process?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

With regard to meeting their statutory obligations, national parks could vary quite considerably in what they look like. Is a tourism hub foreseen as part of the proposal, similar to the Aviemores and Loch Lomond Shores, or is that not part of the vision? How can the public and local communities assess whether they want something if they do not know what it looks like?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

Thanks for that. I am having an issue with the response to local community demand. There does not need to be an exact blueprint, but there should be a vision or an indication of what that might look like.

John, you take a wider view on national parks. More generally, can you see there being a blueprint for a national park that differs from the two existing ones that we have, or do you think that that is naturally where it would broadly lead to? On the Galloway park specifically, what might that look like and how might it be presented to local communities to allow them to make an assessment of whether they want it?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

As we know, diversification gets into tourism, about which we have heard, wind turbines, solar farms, battery storage—yes, okay. Back to you, convener.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

Which is fine, as long as you do not state that one of your aims is response to local community demand. If it is a policy decision that this must happen, that is up to the Scottish Government, but you cannot then say that it is because the community supports it, I would argue. It reeks a bit of George Orwell’s “1984”. Ian McKinnon, would you like to come in?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

On the definition of a national park, do the witnesses in the room think that the people of Galloway understand what is being presented, and is there a clear vision of what a national park would be? Wrapped around that question, what formal processes have NatureScot or the Scottish Government conducted to date?