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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Willie Coffey

Good morning to everyone on the panel. I will focus on the council tax freeze and I put my question to you, Councillor Hagmann. As you know, the offer on the table is £144 million, and we think that that represents what would be about a 5 per cent council tax increase. Everybody says that that is not enough, but what is enough? Has COSLA got a settled view on what the figure should be? The minister will be joining us in a wee while for part two of the committee session, so unless you have directly told him what is enough, what do you say to the committee about COSLA’s view on that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Willie Coffey

Okay. Thank you very much for your responses to all those questions. I appreciate that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Willie Coffey

I am sure that that will be an important part of your on-going discussions with the minister. I am absolutely certain about that, because it crops up time and time again.

My third question is about capital budgets. I will start with you again, if I can, Councillor Hagmann. There has been a reduction to Scotland’s capital budget, but one of the provisions that the Scottish Government has made is to allow a transfer of £120 million from capital to revenue. On the one hand, that will help the revenue budget but, on the other, it will clearly have an impact on the capital budget. I am thinking particularly about issues such as reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete and how we make progress towards net zero in our various council estates. Councillor Hagmann, will you give us your view of whether that is the right measure to take, or whether we need to do more or do things differently?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Willie Coffey

Good morning, minister and colleagues. I want to ask about the thorny issue of multiyear settlements. The Verity house agreement made clear the intention that we would try to take that approach wherever possible, but as a Government, you face constraints in that regard, as you do not get multiyear settlements in your own budget.

How do we square those two things and resolve the situation? Is there ever going to be an end to this particular debate? I have been hearing for years that everybody wants multiyear settlements, but we never quite seem to be able to deliver them.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Willie Coffey

Minister, you yourself mentioned a 10 per cent cut in the capital allocation to the Scottish Government, but we have switched some capital spend—about £100 million—to revenue in the past two years and for the year to come, as far as I am aware. What impact will that have on some of our priorities and the issues that we face, particularly with regard to RAAC in the local authority estate—and particularly, perhaps, in the school estate—and our net zero commitments? Having a reduced capital budget and then switching capital to revenue are bound to have an impact in that respect. Can you give the committee a flavour of that issue?

11:15  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Willie Coffey

I am delighted to hear that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Willie Coffey

That was done last year and it is being done next year.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Willie Coffey

Good morning. I have two or three questions about the colleges’ reliance on Scottish Government funding and the overall picture in that regard but, first, I want to follow up on the budget question that the convener opened with, which was about the potential impact of the proposed budget settlement and the reduction in funding for colleges.

We always focus on budget proposals and we rarely give any attention to what happened during the course of a year—the outturn, if you like. Karen, you gave examples of what is actually happening, compared with the predictions and projections that were made at the start of the year about what might happen. Can you give us a wee flavour of what impacts the previous budget cut has actually had and what you are seeing emerging? I know that we have not reached the end of the financial year, but can you give us a clue as to how the outturn is looking in respect of the areas that you mentioned?

10:15  

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Willie Coffey

You mentioned digital. I visited Ayrshire College recently and spoke to its principal. We shared the view that the digital solutions for training during Covid were really beneficial, but she also said that the students prefer to be in college. I think that the committee is aware of that. Altering the balance between online digital learning and in-person learning by students who are present in college would not be used as a way to reduce costs, would it?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Willie Coffey

I will give a local example. A firm in Ayrshire came to me and said, “Your college doesn’t do any roofing courses.” I asked the principal about that, and she confirmed that the college does not provide any roofing courses—even though the firm needs them—because the demand has not been there. There were only a few inquiries about such courses over two years. That is bound to be a common story across Scotland—a company saying to a college, “Why don’t you do this?”

Can we get better at that? Can we regionalise provision, for example? Can we support employers by putting on the courses that they want? Would we have to ask them to pay? I do not think that we have ever done that. How do we get smarter in that area, where an employer says that they need skills but the college does not deliver them? How do we solve that?