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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Willie Coffey

Okay. Absolutely fascinating, guys. Thank you.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Willie Coffey

Thank you for that, Leo. Turning to you, Steve Aitken, and the wider issue of the ethical battle, should there be an ethical blanket thrown over the whole AI revolution? Is it possible to do that? Is it always going to be the fight that Leo Fakhrul describes? Can we win that battle, and should we try to win that battle?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Willie Coffey

Good morning. I will start with Leo Fakhrul. We are always going to need XYNQ because, by the sounds of it, we are always going to need to retaliate against the bad-faith actors. The committee was talking earlier about whether to embed the ethical approach and whether that is possible. I will come to Steve Aitken in a moment to ask more about that.

Leo, without giving any of your secrets away, can you say whether we can successfully do what you are setting out to do? Will we be able to prevent fraud today, although it will reappear in another form tomorrow? Will it be an endless journey for companies such as yours to retaliate against fraud? Is that what we will be seeing now and into the future—a constant fight between good-faith actors and bad-faith actors?

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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Willie Coffey

Thanks for that. Dex Hunter-Torricke, how can we throw an ethical blanket around this whole thing? Is it impossible or is it yet still possible? If so, who should do it?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Willie Coffey

You may have heard Dex Hunter-Torricke telling us earlier about the advent of the corporate billion-dollar company with a single person in control. How do we persuade such a person to embrace an ethical framework and ethical standards? Is that a journey that we just have to keep working on and fighting to achieve?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Willie Coffey

What about creativity?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Willie Coffey

That goes into the area that Gordon MacDonald led us into—regulation, control and standards. Is it too late to try to establish that stuff?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Willie Coffey

Good morning. I invite you to say a few words each on the ethical side of all of this. Kayla-Megan Burns, you have mentioned ethics a few times, and colleagues have raised a number of issues that take us in that direction. Will you give us your thoughts on how we protect ourselves and society and also instil within the AI revolution a sense of responsibility, ethical behaviour and so on, or do you think that it is destined to just run its own course, in its own direction and at its own pace?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Willie Coffey

Trust is at the heart of this. Is trust our saviour? Is trust going to save us from a horrible future where we will be endlessly fighting against bad-faith actors? If we can establish that within any of these frameworks do we have a chance, Leo Fakhrul?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Ddraft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Willie Coffey

Yes, thanks, convener. I wonder if I could reverse the order of my two questions. I have one question on skills and workforce that I want to come to, but first I want to go back to the start to look at consumer participation in this great process.

I will start with Alistair Hill. Do you think that the community at large—consumers at large—are embracing this transition? I do not think that they are in the numbers that we need to see. As colleagues have mentioned, a number of things have to happen to crank it up and make it go faster. One relates to the price of electricity, which is four times the price of gas. If we do not solve that issue, we are going nowhere—we really have to solve that. Also, although the grant and assistance schemes are great, are they enough, in terms of the funding and financial models, to achieve the transition on their own? What are the witnesses’ views on that?

Neil, you mentioned that 87,000 properties need intervention and that that will cost £3 billion. Do we need to do much more to really kick-start things and get the acceleration that we all hope for? I have been hearing this conversation at the committee for a wee while now. I will start with Alistair.