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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 28 April 2022

Willie Coffey

I was just coming to that particular issue. Paragraph 50 of the report says that “CMAL could only advise” and not require Ferguson to alter its approach to design and construction. I have never heard of a quality standard worth its salt in which the customer cannot instruct the builder to carry out its wishes.

What then emerged were these owner observation reports that members will have read about in the various documents. In quality management parlance, these are change requests, which are common in any other effective quality standard. However, according to your report, there were 346 such reports, only half of which had been carried out by the time Ferguson went into administration. Was the scale of that particular outcome unusual in your experience? Was it a symptom of the failure to agree in advance the designs of this peculiar construction, effectively meaning that everyone paid the price later on in the project?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of NHS Highland”

Meeting date: 28 April 2022

Willie Coffey

Thanks very much, convener, and madainn mhath to the panel from NHS Highland. I start by reminding everyone that when a health board comes before the Public Audit Committee it is usually because of Audit Scotland knocking on the door and this Scottish Parliament committee having a look at matters.

To your great credit, you appear to have turned your finances around. However, my question is, how can there be such a transformation on finances with no impact on healthcare, or the public’s perception of it, in NHS Highland? You said that nothing of significant concern resulted from that. If you do not mind, please tell us how that can be.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 28 April 2022

Willie Coffey

I will ask about the general application of quality standards. That is a recurring theme, as we all know, but in this case, they apply to the shipbuilding industry. Over many years, the committee has heard about the importance of thorough planning and design at the outset of any project, whether it be a piece of software, a bridge or vessels, as in this case.

On page 25 is your report, you say that Ferguson started building the vessels before the designs were agreed with CMAL, which led to substantial reworking being required, with

“increased costs and delays”

and

“no link to quality standards.”

Those are the words in your report.

Why was that allowed to happen at the outset? Surely nobody would start building something before they knew what they were being asked to build. Do such failures mean that there was little prospect of a successful construction outcome further down the line?

Public Audit Committee

“Social care briefing”

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Willie Coffey

That will do for now, convener. I know that we are pressed for time.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Willie Coffey

On the point about the builders refund guarantee at the very beginning of the process, my understanding, having read the papers, is that, within a standard shipping model contract, such a guarantee is assumed and embedded as part of the contract agreement—so it was assumed by default that FMEL had consented to provide that 100 per cent guarantee. However, only a month later, it said that it could not do so. Is that potentially a clear case of FMEL misleading the client at the outset of the contract?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Willie Coffey

Did you investigate why that guarantee was withdrawn within a month, or did the parties just proceed to make the best of the circumstances in which they found themselves?

Public Audit Committee

“Social care briefing”

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Willie Coffey

I want to follow up on Craig Hoy’s question about funding and sustainability.

If you look at the figures that the Auditor General presented to us on adult social care spend, you can see significant increases in the spend over the past 10 years—in fact, it has gone up by 22 per cent. Caroline Lamb said a moment ago that we plan to spend another 25 per cent more. The bottom-line question for me is whether the additional funding and the whole-service redesign that is coming through the national care service will be adequate to address the concerns that the Auditor General expressed about the future sustainability of the service. Could you give us your view on that, Caroline, and some reassurance, if you can?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects (Accountability and Governance)

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Willie Coffey

Thank you very much for that. Back to you, convener.

Public Audit Committee

“Drug and alcohol services: An update”

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Willie Coffey

You also note that there are a number of competing projects locally. I am sure that there are projects in all members’ constituencies that are competing for support and funding to tackle these issues. To what extent is that a problem that is preventing us from getting to where we need to be? I encounter it quite a lot in my area; groups are almost arguing with one another that they should be receiving financial support to deliver these services. There does not seem to be any clear way through this in relation to who delivers the best solution on the ground.

Public Audit Committee

“Drug and alcohol services: An update”

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Willie Coffey

Yes—we will probably follow that up. Thanks very much to both of you.