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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Social care briefing”

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Willie Coffey

I want to follow up on Craig Hoy’s question about funding and sustainability.

If you look at the figures that the Auditor General presented to us on adult social care spend, you can see significant increases in the spend over the past 10 years—in fact, it has gone up by 22 per cent. Caroline Lamb said a moment ago that we plan to spend another 25 per cent more. The bottom-line question for me is whether the additional funding and the whole-service redesign that is coming through the national care service will be adequate to address the concerns that the Auditor General expressed about the future sustainability of the service. Could you give us your view on that, Caroline, and some reassurance, if you can?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects (Accountability and Governance)

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Willie Coffey

I heard clearly and really appreciated those good, lengthy and detailed answers. I will not pick out individual projects—I think that Craig Hoy might refer to a few key ones later on—but going back to Geoff Huggins’s comments on the benefits of good design, I would suggest that, if you have good design and a clear specification for a piece of software, you are in with a good chance of delivering on time and on budget. Is that not the case? Are you able to assure the committee that we are in a good place with the range of projects that are being worked on—a figure of more than 500 was mentioned—and that we know that the design, specifications and skills mix are good enough to deliver those projects on time and on budget? In short, are all the projects that are on our books well defined and capable of being delivered on time and on budget?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects (Accountability and Governance)

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Willie Coffey

Can you assure us that we are not likely to see another i6 project any time soon?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects (Accountability and Governance)

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Willie Coffey

That would have to happen during a discussion about ICT, wouldn’t it, convener? [Laughter.]

Public Audit Committee

“Drug and alcohol services: An update”

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Willie Coffey

You also note that the Government has not been particularly clear on the level of spending that is being targeted at early intervention and prevention. Can you say a few words about that? What should the Government be doing to clarify or improve that aspect?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects (Accountability and Governance)

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Willie Coffey

Thank you very much for that. Back to you, convener.

Public Audit Committee

“Drug and alcohol services: An update”

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Willie Coffey

That is a really important point. I know from local experience that, during Covid in particular, when people were coming out of the criminal justice system, they were finding it difficult to access support services. If we can do anything to reinstate and recover that aspect of the service, that would contribute, at least in part, to turning things around.

My last question is about the governance aspect. Your report reminds us that

“The Scottish Government and COSLA agreed eight recommendations to improve the governance and accountability”

of various services, leading to the development of the partnership delivery framework for alcohol and drug partnerships. Could you say a wee bit more about how that has been progressing, please?

Public Audit Committee

“Drug and alcohol services: An update”

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Willie Coffey

Thank you, convener. I hope that the videolink will survive the next five minutes or so.

Auditor General, I have a couple of questions on early intervention and prevention, and I will perhaps ask one on governance arrangements.

Over the years, I have worked with a number of drug and alcohol projects in my constituency. If the people there had one key ask, it was to have a flexible and quickly accessible service that they could call on to get help when they needed it. There has been good progress in reporting on this matter, certainly in my constituency. Do you recognise that as an issue that has popped up in your discussions and analysis? How does it fit in with the work that the Scottish Government is trying to do on early intervention? It seems to me to be a huge issue for the people in Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley. It is leading to more suicides than we would like to have, obviously. It is a serious issue. It has been raised with me several times that direct and fast access to help and support services is crucial.

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects (Accountability and Governance)

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Willie Coffey

Good morning, panel. I want to ask a couple of questions on progress with the technical assurance framework.

The witnesses are bound to recall the factors and key reasons for ICT projects failing in the past: project planning, the lack of application of quality-management processes and skills identification. Indeed, skills problems and the skills mix have always been problems. The committee felt that there were a number of issues that, over the years, have led to projects running over time and over budget. The i6 project, for example, was particularly bad in that respect. We saw how things tended to be rushed from the start, how projects were poorly defined and how too many changes were made along the way, all of which led to overruns. As I recall, the i6 project itself was abandoned altogether.

I wonder whether Geoff Huggins and Donny McGillivray can give us an overview of where we are now with all those issues. Have we captured the problems? Are the processes that we embraced and the various other frameworks in place and working towards successful delivery?

Public Audit Committee

“Drug and alcohol services: An update”

Meeting date: 31 March 2022

Willie Coffey

You also note that there are a number of competing projects locally. I am sure that there are projects in all members’ constituencies that are competing for support and funding to tackle these issues. To what extent is that a problem that is preventing us from getting to where we need to be? I encounter it quite a lot in my area; groups are almost arguing with one another that they should be receiving financial support to deliver these services. There does not seem to be any clear way through this in relation to who delivers the best solution on the ground.