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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 September 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Criminal courts backlog”

Meeting date: 8 June 2023

Willie Coffey

Can you tell us a bit more about the initial responses to Covid, particularly the digital or electronic transformation of documents, which you say in the report was successful? How did that work, and is that still in place?

Public Audit Committee

“Criminal courts backlog”

Meeting date: 8 June 2023

Willie Coffey

Yes, you certainly mentioned that, but I wonder whether that system is available to us in the solemn cases. You said that the backlog was still pretty high. Is that process usable in solemn cases?

Public Audit Committee

“Criminal courts backlog”

Meeting date: 8 June 2023

Willie Coffey

Okay. I hope that we can come back to that, convener.

My last question is about the impact of adjournments. We all know that they are part and parcel of the justice system, but were there any significant impacts due to Covid that meant that frequent or more prolonged adjournments took place? If so, how was that resolved?

Public Audit Committee

“Criminal courts backlog”

Meeting date: 8 June 2023

Willie Coffey

Will others examine the issue of whether that had a negative impact on the system?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Willie Coffey

I will ask the same question of Gregor Irwin. What does the Scottish Government feel that the biggest elements have been in the cost overrun of vessel 802?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Willie Coffey

Do both the Scottish Government and Ferguson’s accept the findings of the section 22 report?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Willie Coffey

What would have happened to the hull?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Willie Coffey

Briefly, with regard to the beggaring of belief issue that was mentioned earlier, the point that the committee—and, perhaps, the public—were making, Mr Miller, is that there is a reasonable expectation that bonuses or incentives would somehow be connected to performance and delivery, rather than to competitiveness and retention of staff. We—and the Government—were genuinely surprised to learn that that system was not connected to performance and delivery. Clearly, the project is five years late and well over budget, so it is difficult for us—and, I am sure, the public—to understand how that situation could continue to be maintained. However, we dwelled on that a moment ago, so I will probably leave it at that, if that is okay, convener and Mr Miller.

I will start with a couple of questions to Mr Tydeman. It is good to see you here again in front of the committee, with a chance to give us your view on how the project has fared since the beginning. In your opening remarks, you outlined that a number of reasons lay behind the delays and cost overruns. You specifically mentioned events in 2015 and 2019, which ultimately meant that timely completion of the vessel was “unrecoverable”. You talked about design and build sequencing and contractual strategies. Since the public are so interested in the project, will you expand a little on what you meant by that and what the issues were that, in your opinion, meant that the project, even at that stage, was unrecoverable?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Willie Coffey

Over many years, the committee has examined a number of projects. I think that it would be reasonable to say that, in our view, if mistakes are made at the outset, usually, there is no successful conclusion at the end, either with regard to time or budget. We have seen a number of examples that fit that category. If the project leaders do not get it right at the beginning, they are hardly likely to get it right at the end. Would you say that that is a fair description of the entire process?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Willie Coffey

To run forward to the present and follow up on questions on costs from my colleague Sharon Dowey, what is the biggest contributory factor to the cost overrun for vessel 802?