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Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Willie Coffey
Yes. For many people, the value is the functionality of the thing. They are not really interested in how it is designed, how it comes together or how powerful it can be as a tool. They just want to be the end user of it. I do not know how representative that is.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Willie Coffey
What I really want to talk about is ethics—it always creeps into the conversation; we get there eventually. How can ethics be embedded at the heart of the AI revolution? Can it or should it be? Perhaps it already is. Earlier, Heather Thomson said—I scribbled it down—that ethics should be embedded in all aspects of AI. How can that be done?
Mark Schaffer, you said in your opening remarks that corporations grabbed the whole agenda and ensconced themselves early on. They were not thinking about ethical standards. They were thinking about profit, control and influence and all the rest of it. Can we truly embed ethics into AI, or must we rely on, for example, governance or regulatory measures in order to throw some kind of protective blanket over it?
I would be pleased to hear your thoughts on how we do that. You started this, Heather, so you can go first. I add that I have never seen an ethical computer algorithm yet.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Willie Coffey
Should it be more of a voluntary thing, with some sections of society deciding that they will engage in that way, or does there need to be an overarching framework that everyone should observe? You mentioned Grok earlier. Is there an ethical component to Grok?
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Willie Coffey
Steven Grier can have the last word.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Willie Coffey
Will the pupils of the future have their own personalised AI bots that look after their individual educational development journeys?
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Willie Coffey
You can tell us about that later.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Willie Coffey
That is why I am asking it.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Willie Coffey
Finally, a number of colleagues around the table mentioned education. What would be the direction of travel were an AI component included within education? The briefing paper from our friends at the Alan Turing Institute told us that 49 per cent of the time that is spent on activities in education could be better supported using generative AI tools.
I invite you to gaze forward and say what education might look like in the immediate future if AI should become more embedded as a tool for learners and teachers and for the activities that are traditionally used to engage people in education. What might AI become if it is deployed sensibly and ethically in the education setting?
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Willie Coffey
Good morning, everybody. This has been a fantastic conversation. I will start where Steven Grier ended a wee while ago, on the subject of computing. How to encourage and keep girls in science has perplexed everyone for many years, and we still do not know the answer. It seems that, when girls transition from primary to secondary school, they lose interest in science, and it is as though computing becomes akin to the oily rag. Mechanics, engineering, software engineering and computing seem to turn young girls off.
Last week, Sarah Ronald talked about her company, where younger women really excel at data analytics and like that side of computing science, whereas the younger guys like to be the coders and the programmers. I do not know how true that is in general, but that is her experience. Is there a magic wand for how to persuade more young women to stick with computing? I think that the idea of calling it “digital design” is fantastic.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Willie Coffey
This is just an observation, but I remember showing my daughter a smartphone years ago and saying, ”Wouldn’t you like to be able to programme and control these?” She said, “No”.