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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Welcome back. I welcome our second panel. Joining us remotely is Victor Madrigal-Borloz, who is the United Nations independent expert on protection against violence and discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity, at the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights. We are joined in person by Ian Duddy, the chair of the Scottish Human Rights Commission; Barbara Bolton, who is its head of legal and policy, and Cathy Asante, who is a legal officer. I particularly welcome Ian, who is on his second day in post as chair of the Scottish Human Rights Commission. You are all welcome—especially Ian—and we look forward to working with you on a range of issues.

I invite the witnesses to make short opening statements, beginning with Victor Madrigal-Borloz.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

If it is on a different issue, I will go to Karen Adam first and then come back to you. Is that all right?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Peter Dunne started to address the issue of waiting periods. Fulton MacGregor wants to probe that a bit more.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Thanks to all three of our witnesses. It has been a long meeting today—I know that everyone has been watching all the evidence sessions. Thank you so much for helping us with our stage 1 inquiry. That concludes the public part of our meeting. We will now move into private session for our final agenda item.

13:25 Meeting continued in private until 13:56.  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Thanks very much, Ian. We now move to questions, starting with Maggie Chapman.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Did you want to come back in, Pam?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

I welcome our third panel of witnesses: Dr Sandra Duffy, lecturer in law, and Dr Peter Dunne, senior lecturer, both from the University of Bristol law school; and Dr Chris Dietz, lecturer in law and social justice, University of Leeds. Apologies if I mispronounced any of the surnames.

I invite our witnesses to make a short opening statement, starting with Dr Duffy, please.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Rachael, it is probably useful if I say that, following Cathy Asante’s comments about her interpretation of what the children’s commissioner said, we have checked and she is correct: he was talking about support for young people.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Yes, absolutely.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

We have a couple more questions to ask, but yes.