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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 June 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee (Hybrid)

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Thank you, Karen, and apologies for that—I need to improve my scrieving.

Do you want to come in again as well, Pam?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee (Hybrid)

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Good morning and welcome to the 14th meeting in 2022 of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. We have received no apologies.

I welcome Tess White MSP to this morning’s evidence-taking sessions. It is worth noting that other MSPs will be watching on Parliament TV and on catch-up. I also welcome a number of members to the public gallery. I ask everyone—members and members of the public—to ensure that their electronic devices are set to silent.

Agenda item 1 is evidence taking on the Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill. The committee is aware of the strongly held and often opposing views on the bill, so we look forward to engaging with a wide range of stakeholders in our evidence taking. We are committed to listening to everyone’s views in a respectful manner throughout our stage 1 scrutiny. I remind everyone that Parliament must lead by example in setting the tone for the debate, so we should be courteous and respectful at all times.

I am very pleased to welcome to the meeting Vic Valentine, who is Scottish trans manager at the Scottish Trans Alliance; Dr Mhairi Crawford, who is chief executive officer of LGBT Youth Scotland; and Colin Macfarlane, who is the director of Stonewall Scotland. You are our first witnesses in our consideration of the bill. We will announce new witnesses week by week through to the summer recess; they will cover issues relating to the bill and views on the bill’s merits. I refer members to papers 1, 2 and 3.

I invite our witnesses to make short opening statements, starting with Vic Valentine.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee (Hybrid)

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Thank you all. We now move to questions.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee (Hybrid)

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Who wants to go first?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee (Hybrid)

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

That concludes this evidence session. Thank you all for attending. I suspend the meeting for a changeover of witnesses.

11:26 Meeting suspended.  

11:36 On resuming—  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee (Hybrid)

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Thank you very much. We move to questions, starting with Maggie Chapman.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee (Hybrid)

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

My apologies, Karen; I missed you. I got ahead of myself.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee (Hybrid)

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Thank you very much. That concludes the public part of our meeting and we will move into private to consider the final items on our agenda.

12:26 Meeting continued in private until 12:39.  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee (Hybrid)

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Fulton, do you have any further questions?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee (Hybrid)

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

I go back to Pam Duncan-Glancy.