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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 November 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Good morning, and welcome to the 32nd meeting in 2022 of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. Apologies have been received from Rachael Hamilton.

Our first agenda item is consideration of an affirmative instrument. I welcome to the meeting the Minister for Community Safety, Elena Whitham MSP, and her officials. Kieran Burke is from the access to justice branch of the Scottish Government, and Emma Thomson is a solicitor in the Scottish Government legal directorate.

I refer members to paper 1 and invite the minister to speak about the draft regulations.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

That completes consideration of the affirmative instrument. I thank the minister and her officials for attending the meeting, and I suspend the meeting briefly to allow for a change of witnesses.

10:04 Meeting suspended.  

10:06 On resuming—  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Welcome back. Our next agenda item is to hear more about a petition on Makaton sign language. Our predecessor committee kept the petition open and included it in its legacy paper for us to consider. I welcome to the meeting the petitioner, Sandra Docherty, who is accompanied by David Bain, and I invite Sandra to speak to the petition.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

No; take your time.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Brilliant—thank you so much, Sandra. That was really good. If we were to stop now and do nothing more on the petition, you should know that you have already achieved a significant raising of awareness in this place and probably further afield. I thank you for that, because it is really important.

We will now go round the committee and ask a few questions. I will start. The petition talks specifically about the use of Makaton in the legal system. I wonder whether you might want to talk a little about that and about whether, if we are going to look at this issue, we should look more widely than the legal system. We are the civil justice committee, but we are also the equalities and human rights committee, so we span all those areas.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Brilliant—we will keep the petition open, write to the Government and decide in a future work programme discussion how we will take the matter forward. I thank Sandra and David again. We will now move into private session.

12:26 Meeting continued in private until 13:05.  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 6 December 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

For the record, it is probably worth my saying that, as far as I am aware, Ms Alsalem did not make any attempt to contact the committee to present any evidence throughout the entirety of our stage 1 or stage 2 proceedings.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 6 December 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Rachael Hamilton is keen to press you on prisons, which you mentioned. This is probably as good a time as any for me to bring her in.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 6 December 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

That concludes the public part of today’s meeting. I say a huge thank you to all three of you for a really interesting session. We move into private session to discuss the remaining items on our agenda.

11:11 Meeting continued in private until 11:38.  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 6 December 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Good morning and welcome to the 31st meeting in session 6 of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. Our first agenda item is to hear from the Scottish Human Rights Commission. I refer members to papers 1 and 2.

From the Scottish Human Rights Commission, I welcome Ian Duddy, chair; Eilidh Dickson, policy and international officer; and Jim Farish, commissioner. I invite Ian Duddy to make a short opening statement.