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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 November 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Take your time.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

I suppose one of the questions is how often people who communicate using Makaton will come across people in the legal system and elsewhere who can understand them and communicate back in Makaton. We may want to look at that to ensure that, whatever information people have, or even if they sign, “I want a glass of water before I go any further”, they can communicate that, be understood and get a response.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

That is a good point, and that was a helpful intervention, David.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

A huge thank you to Sandra and David, who have raised a huge number of issues, some of which I do not think we were expecting. I had an expectation about where our discussion would go, but they have raised more issues for us to consider. As Maggie Chapman suggested, we will want to take a bit of time to do that and work out our approach.

I suggest to members that, for now, we make a formal decision to keep the petition open and write to the Scottish Government for its initial thoughts on the evidence that Sandra and David have presented today. Are members agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

I invite the committee to agree to delegate to me the publication of a short, factual report on our deliberations on the affirmative instrument that we have just considered. Is that agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Under the next agenda item, we will hear from members of the independent expert advisory group on ending conversion practices. I welcome to the meeting our panel of witnesses: Nick Bland, the chair of the group; Dr Rebecca Crowther; Dr Paul Behrens; and Richy Edwards. Thank you for taking the time to speak to us today.

I refer members to papers 2 and 3, and invite each of our witnesses to make a short opening statement.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Thank you very much. Can we now hear from Rebecca Crowther, please?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Thank you, Richy. We will now hear from Paul.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

That ends our questions. I thank the witnesses hugely for their evidence.

It is now up to the committee to decide what to do with the petition. Given that the Government is committed to introducing legislation relatively quickly, I suggest that we close it. Do members agree?

Members indicated agreement.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Petitions

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

The committee has agreed under rule 15.7 of standing orders to close the petition on the basis that the Scottish Government has committed to introducing legislation on the matter.

I give a huge thank you to all our witnesses for what has been an informative session. We look forward to continuing to work with the Government as the proposed bill moves forward at pace.

I suspend the meeting for about 15 minutes.

11:24 Meeting suspended.  

11:39 On resuming—