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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 August 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Inquiry into Race Inequality in Scotland

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Joe FitzPatrick

In the previous evidence session, Maggie Chapman raised the issue of racial profiling by the police, which gets a result. The other issue that it might be useful to hear folks’ thoughts on is what support folk have when they find themselves in the criminal justice system. Is the support available to help them through that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Inquiry into Race Inequality in Scotland

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Joe FitzPatrick

With respect Rachael, we are about to move on to Maggie Chapman’s questions. I will let Maggie come in first. I did ask whether your questions were about the same topic, but I do not think they were. I hope that both questions will blend together, but we will start with Maggie.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Inquiry into Race Inequality in Scotland

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Joe FitzPatrick

Thanks for that, Pinar. The pictures on the telly were absolutely horrific. If anybody ever pretends that racism is not a problem in Scotland, we can say that we saw it on our TV screens. You are absolutely right to raise the question of how we can tackle that to make sure that people feel welcome. I think that all politicians want people to feel welcome, but we saw on the telly what people can experience.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Inquiry into Race Inequality in Scotland

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Joe FitzPatrick

That is a brilliant point on which to finish. We might have to think about how we can focus on your final point about treating everyone equitably.

I thank everyone for their time. We could probably have gone on all day. As well as answering lots of questions and helping to educate us, you have raised more questions in our minds about how we take this work forward. Thank you.

11:11 Meeting suspended.  

11:19 On resuming—  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Inquiry into Race Inequality in Scotland

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Joe FitzPatrick

Jatin, I know that you said you were disagreeing with your colleagues, but there was lots of nodding while you were talking, and I think that that indicates how complex the issue is and that we have to make sure that we look at it properly.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Inquiry into Race Inequality in Scotland

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Joe FitzPatrick

Rachael Hamilton, is your question about employment?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Inquiry into Race Inequality in Scotland

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Joe FitzPatrick

Rachael Hamilton, do you want to come back in?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Inquiry into Race Inequality in Scotland

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Joe FitzPatrick

It has been covered. It might also be the case that other members’ questions have been answered, because we have crossed over on a number of points, but I will check whether members are content. Pam Gosal, would you like to come in?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Inquiry into Race Inequality in Scotland

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Joe FitzPatrick

Pam Duncan-Glancy, did you have a question?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Inquiry into Race Inequality in Scotland

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Joe FitzPatrick

Welcome back. We now come to agenda item 3.

We will hear from our second panel of representatives from organisations, in round-table format. They are: Pervin Ahmad, strategic development manager, Saheliya; Pinar Aksu, human rights and advocacy co-ordinator, Maryhill Integration Network; Mariam Ahmed, chief executive officer, Amina—the Muslim Women’s Resource Centre; and Graham O’Neill, policy manager, Scottish Refugee Council. You are all very welcome.

As this is a round-table session, it will be a bit more conversational. We want to hear about issues and concerns relating to race inequality, to help guide us in our inquiry work. We will go round the table and ask folk to introduce themselves, starting with Pervin Ahmad.