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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 November 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Thank you. Those were the main questions that I had in relation to the letter.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Thank you.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

I will ask about some issues around the financial memorandum. You had an extensive evidence session with the Finance and Public Administration Committee, so I do not propose to redo that, but I will give you an opportunity to respond to some of the points that that committee has flagged up to us.

The first area that I will speak about has been touched on already, so maybe we do not need to spend too much time on it. You briefly mentioned training time costs, which you suggested would be £200,000 in the first year. The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care says that the Scottish Government believes that training costs for doctors would be something more like £6 million. That is a huge difference.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

You mentioned Oregon and Victoria and how your cost estimates are based on those two systems. Most of us, and anybody who has been watching the evidence, will understand why you did that. However, the finance committee raised the point that it heard evidence that you should have used Canada. I will therefore give you the option of quickly explaining why Oregon and Victoria, and not Canada, are the basis for your estimates.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Information Commissioner

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

It is good to hear about that progress, and it is good that we are able to shed light on what is happening because there is an intention to expand the scheme and people are terrified of being covered, so we need to help them not to be scared about what is coming and ensure that they realise that this is not just good in terms of public information but will be good for those organisations themselves.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Information Commissioner

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Cool.

Before I cover the questions that I was going to ask, I want to ask about proactive release, which you talked about earlier. Ultimately, proactive release is one of the tools that will help the landscape to become easier to navigate. In the past, there has been a suggestion that perhaps that could lead to information dumps, which would make things really difficult. You mentioned AI. Might artificial intelligence assistants take away the risk of an information dump, because those tools can go through screeds of stuff and pull out what people want in an accessible way?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Information Commissioner

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

That is good. However, if that does not work, you have various levels of intervention. Will you give us a wee outline of how the interventions differ in resource intensity?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Information Commissioner

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Can you provide an update on the level 2 interventions relating to Midlothian Council, SEPA and CES?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Information Commissioner

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Western Isles Council.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Information Commissioner

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

That sounds really good. It sounds as though we should be encouraging that, because, if people could get that information, it could save organisations money and save you from having to complain.

In your opening remarks, you said that you are funding practice interventions from core funding. Obviously, it is hoped that practice interventions will reduce demand later, so there will be a bit of a pay-off. I will give you the opportunity to say whether you are seeing that benefit from your cases.