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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 7 November 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

I have been hoping that someone would raise the matter of directly elected chairs—you almost did earlier, Sir David. We are talking about how the committees get increased self-confidence and higher levels of esteem, potentially paired with financial payment for convenerships. Currently, our conveners do hugely hard work and get no financial reward for it. Do those two things, which happen at Westminster, help the committee structures to have that increased esteem in the eyes of the public and the media?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Thanks very much for that. It was really helpful.

The last area that I will focus on is the impact of scrutiny and audit work, which we have touched on a couple of times. Gemma Diamond, to start the discussion on audit scrutiny, will you give us Audit Scotland’s experience of evaluation work?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

One question is whether, if the committees of the Scottish Parliament were to do more of that, there would be a concern about witness fatigue. You would be going back to people who were involved as you went through the legislation; there might be a concern about going back to them. Do you have any thoughts on that, Meg?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Were you happy with that significant aspect? You were being told that a reduction in income was expected—a reduction that turned out to be even worse because some of the decisions about where to take international students from were riskier than those taken by other universities. Did it not seem unusual not to have that person at the court?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

I have a quick follow-up on one of the answers that was given to Maggie Chapman.

Tricia, when you were asked about red flags, you said that cybersecurity, finances and student numbers were all red flags. When did student numbers become a red flag?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Was that the first time that student numbers became a red flag?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Thank you. We will hold you to that.

For awareness, convener, I note that the unions are keen and would be pleased to speak to the committee if you felt that you were able to facilitate that in order to hear their take on some of the issues.

I have not seen the plan and it has not been sent to me, but—this goes to Clare Haughey’s question—the unions tell me that the proposed job losses will predominantly affect women and large numbers of those in lower-salaried positions. It is a concern that the pain will not be shared at all levels. It is good to hear that the £200,000 post will not be taken forward, but colleagues have mentioned that salaries for senior executive members of the university are eye-watering. I was speaking to my colleague Mercedes Villalba and she asked why anyone should be paid more than the First Minister of Scotland, who runs the country, but many people in the university are being paid a lot more than him. If we genuinely want to consider how the university sector moves forward, we may need to look at salary levels at the highest end of the scale across the universities.

The First Minister currently takes a pay cut, with his salary frozen at 2008 levels, and that cut is equivalent to about 20 or 25 per cent of the salary that he could take. If senior management at the university were to consider how they could share some of the pain, that would send a signal to the unions and it would perhaps give a bit more time for further recovery plans to be tabled. I would urge you to consider that. I am keen to hear your thoughts about whether there is a willingness from senior management to share some of the pain that students and staff are feeling right now.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Tricia Bey, did it not seem unusual that the person who was responsible for such a significant part of the university’s funding was not attending the court?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

It would be good if you could say, on the record, who the VP for international students is, because we are saying “she”.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Can you say who that is?