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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 February 2026
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

We are going to have to move on—

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Can I bring in Fulton MacGregor first? He has not been in yet and we are really pushed for time. Is that okay or is your question a follow-up?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Thank you all very much. That point of consensus across different points of view is perhaps a good place to end, so thank you for that, Lucy.

I thank all the witnesses. The session took longer than you had agreed to, so I thank you for bearing with us. We have covered a huge amount of ground.

I will suspend in order to change witnesses and for a 10-minute comfort break.

11:40 Meeting suspended.  

11:49 On resuming—  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Rachael Hamilton has a brief supplementary question.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

As there are no further questions, I thank all the witnesses for coming along today and for their forbearance before the start of this evidence session.

That concludes the public part of the meeting.

13:03 Meeting continued in private until 13:58.  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Karen Adam has a question, so maybe you could come in on that. I am conscious that there are still a fair number of areas that we are hoping to cover.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Our next item is to continue taking evidence on the Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill.

I welcome to the meeting our first panel. Lucy Hunter Blackburn is from MurrayBlackburnMackenzie; Susan Smith is co-director of For Women Scotland; Dr Kate Coleman is director of Keep Prisons Single Sex; and Malcolm Clark is head of research at the LGB Alliance.

I refer members to papers 1 and 2.

I invite Lucy Hunter Blackburn to make a short opening statement.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Thank you, Malcolm. We will now move to questions, starting with Maggie Chapman.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

We need to watch the time. A couple of folk want to ask a quick supplementary question. I ask that you try to keep things tight, because we need to ask the rest of the questions.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Okay. We have covered that issue. It was a useful discussion. That was in response to a supplementary question; I invite Karen Adam to ask her substantive question.