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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 September 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Bob Doris

Mr Ruskell makes reasonable points. On the question of whether, on balance, we should support the SI that is before us, I am minded to look at the cabinet secretary’s reply to the committee on 21 May, which says:

“The SI also revises and adds new conditions to substances in Annexes IV and V of the UK POPs regulation, which relate to the disposal of waste containing POPs. These proposed changes go beyond the requirements of the Convention and are designed to give certainty to operators and industry on their responsibilities when dealing with POPs waste.”

The SI goes beyond the requirements and gives certainty for operators and business, which is important.

Also, in the “EU Alignment” section, in relation to annex V, the notification document says:

“Therefore, while there is temporary EU misalignment, it is expected that the EU POPs regulation will also soon be amended in accordance with the Stockholm Convention.”

There is a temporary misalignment.

I am not seeking to block the instrument but, in allowing it to go ahead, we should ask for further information in due course on how the issue will be monitored by the Scottish Government and how realignment will be achieved. I do not dismiss or make light of Mr Ruskell’s comments, but I support the instrument as it stands.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Bob Doris

I did not take part in the scrutiny of the Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill, but it appears from what you and Jackie McCreery have said that that definition could change over time, because practices change. Therefore, it makes sense to have the definition in a code or secondary legislation and to keep a watching eye on it. Does that not make sense?

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Bob Doris

It is a case of being damned by faint praise.

Mr Nicholson, I am not quite sure about the background to this, but you suggested that, if good husbandry is not being undertaken, there are set processes for remedies that the landlord can follow to achieve a resolution, but that if good estate management is not being undertaken, there is not an equitable or balanced process for tenants to address that. Is there anything more that the bill could do on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Bob Doris

Do the other witnesses have comments on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Bob Doris

Thank you, convener. I apologise to the witnesses. I have been quiet not out of a lack of interest but because I have a blinding headache. That is why I have been so passive during the evidence session.

I hope that I have picked a small but beautifully formed part of the bill that we can get some evidence on: the part that makes changes to the rules of good husbandry and estate management, which, my notes tell me, have not changed since 1948. I understand that the reason that we are changing them on this occasion is that they might cut across the reforms to agricultural support and the four tiers that will be introduced. An enhanced level of direct payments will be brought in, and there might be a conflict between meeting lease obligations under the current rules and getting the relevant payments under tier 2.

The Scottish Tenant Farmers Association made some comments on that issue in its written evidence. Christopher, do you think that the changes that are proposed are adequate? Is there anything else that you would like to see being included in the bill?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Bob Doris

Okay. Whenever I hear the expression “relatively gentle”, it makes me wonder whether what is being proposed is a bit too modest. Would you like the bill to have done more in that area?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Bob Doris

The 2016 provision does seem like a nuclear option. That was a helpful point to put on the record. I have no further questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Bob Doris

So you are concerned that we might be passing a bill without having clarity on what it will mean in practice.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2024

Bob Doris

Right. You think that they should connect with each other in a meaningful and coherent way.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Bob Doris

That is helpful. I will not ask any more questions, but I will reflect briefly on what you say, Suzie.

I think that you suggested last week, convener, that whether this Parliament can put a statutory duty on an organisation to have that responsibility is one thing, but if we are involved, we should at least have a voluntary arrangement with organisations. We have heard about the Home Office and GPs, and Suzie mentioned the DWP. I will not come back with any more questions, but would you like to see any other organisations on the list in relation to the duty?